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#26

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No...I LITERALLY don't have the time.
I'm busy taking in all of this "political crap".

Don't pull the lazy, politically ambiguous American thing with me. I couldn't be further from that.

That is as valid as the "if you don't like it, leave" argument.

As has been argued many times before and many times again. We are all entitled to our opinion. My point is to add a little shading... A man on the moon will generate just about the same arguments now as it did 50-60 years ago. And believe it or not... the enabling research has been funded by EVERY administration since then.
Hamlet's father.
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And another thing... (*finger in the air*)
Spending this program's money on feeding starving children is a stopgap fix. Why are they starving to begin with? (rhetorical, please... I don't need 30 political posts with that answer)

How much technology was developed as part of the original space race helps us today?... answer... LOTS. For instance, the satellite that can view and recommend areas of farmland that needs irrigation...

Often there are positive byproducts of such programs. OK. I'm done. Not because I'm too lazy Namo :) , but because I should be doing real work.

Love you all.
Hamlet's father.
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I liked the finger in the air part. And at this point, it's hard to see how a mission to Mars or colonizing the moon (I'm sorry, that one just SLAYS me!!! it's so pathetic!) is going to advance our already rapid development of technology.
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#29

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hmmmmm, the moon, eh? who? all those enemy combatants that we've taken during our conquest of the middle east? we, uh, sent them to live on the moon *big smile* yeah, the moon. a new palestine? you geussed it folks, it's on the moon! the entire people for the ethical treatment of animals? they're on an "exploration" trip to mars. we won't be hearing from them for, gee, maybe 50 or 60 years.

namo, i am shocked to see how narrow your views are on what could be an incredibly useful program.
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#31

omg, bush is going insane!

There is an old saying, “The Meek shall inherit the Earth. The rest of us are going to the Stars.”

We are only starting to take our first stumbling steps in that direction and while at this point and time, it may not seem the right thing, I feel that one day, it will be shown to have been the very best thing we could have done. There is never a good time for change to come but for better or worse, it does.

What if our ancestors had sat on their butts and listened to “the world is flat” theory? Where would we be? For better or worse, we must move forward. This planet is being robbed of it’s nature treasures. Over population is real problem. Unless strict laws, controlling that population are put into effect and followed, where do you suggest we put them?

It seems a natural extension of the same pioneering spirit of our ancestors to colonize the other planets in this system for a start and then, when technology comes up with the means, to move ever outward.

In my humble opinion.

D
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Honey, I know how much you love the sci-fi. But it's fi. And that's spelled f-i and that rhymes with y and that's how you end "folly."
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#33

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Namo,

At one time a man named Jules Vern wrote of a boat that could travel under the water, powered by something that was unimaginable. It was the height of Science Fiction for it’s day and widely laughed at as being impossible. Just one of many examples that today’s Science Fiction can become tomorrows science fact.

Good Music Man reference, btw.

D
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I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just saying that there is little point. When I think of how much people balk at the notion of getting health care for every American but they don't bat an eye at a billion dollars a day to destroy Iraq, and get all misty and Wright Brothers dreamy about going to Mars so that in the future somebody's great-great-great-granddaughter can invent the Millennium Falcon, well, I think some priorities are definitely out of whack.
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But the point is that maybe by going to space, we might be able to help those here on Earth. Who knows what we are going to find there until we GET there.

I understand your point of view. I agree with it, in part, but I also feel we can not ignore the possibility that the answers to some of our problems are out there someplace, if we only have the courage to go look for them.

The early pioneers didn’t have a heath plan when they explored this county. You took your chances. Some came up aces and other came up looking at the backside of grass.

I agree that if we could channel the time/money/man power/energies spent on war into working on solutions to our problems that would be beyond great. Perhaps by setting a goal, like colonization of a new world, perhaps part of that could be achieved.

The benefits could be enormous in terms of relieving some of the over crowding, new medicines, new sources of energy, bigger crops, the list goes on and on.

It’s a risk. A gamble. It costs money. We may fall flat on our faces but we won’t know unless we try. Columbas took a chance. Are we so laid back and lazy that we won't? That's all I'm saying.
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dude! the millenium falcon made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs!! if we have even a scant hope of getting it, i say we bankrupt the country to do so! rockin'!
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

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pray to st. jude

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D, the pioneers paid their own way as they took their chances. Funding a flight to Mars, in our culture of scarcity, does in fact take away the money that could go to give present day real world already-existing solutions to the people who need but can't afford them. Is what I'm saying.

And pap, how many times a day can you make me LOL?
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Humm, and I thought the history books said Columbus went to the Queen of Spain (ie government) to look for funding for his little jaunt. I know, I know, most of the people who came afer did so out of their own pockets or sold themselfs as indenture servants (nice word for slaves). But it was the government that laid out the initial funds for exploration.

I'm sure the queen could have used that money for something else at the time. New pair of shoes, perhaps?

True?

D
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Sorry, I thought you meant the proverbial American pioneers. The ones who went West in America and rousted out those pesky people who lived there first. As for the Queen of Spain and Colombus, it would be interesting to do a dollar analysis of what it cost to fund Columbus then and what it will cost to build a colony on the moon (snicker, sorry, that just makes me laugh) as well as the Mission to Mars. (Not the Disney ride but the Bush plan.) I bet, even adjusting for inflation, the Mars thing is going to be a squadrillion times more. And for what? Well, an election ploy to get the country united about a very crazy idea that really hasn't been on the mind of its citizens. At all. I mean, it will never, ever happen. And it's so cynical of Bush to try to bring it up now. It will backfire. But if it's for the morale of the Nasa people, well, sign us up!!
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Updated On: 1/9/04 at 10:53 PM

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oh i don't know, i am on pins and needles waiting to see if the mars rover will make it down the alternate platform since the bubble bag was in the way and kept it from going down on it's...uh, i mean going down the primary route off the landing platform.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#42

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I know the American Pioneers are the ones who come to mind, sorry if I confused you. If you think about it, they all were pioneers of a sort.

I guess, it would be a worry that if we did go and find some other kind of life, the same thing that happened to "those pesky people who lived there first". But I rest easy knowing that we would teach them Christian morals, beliefs and charity, by God, if we had to kill every last one of them to do it. re: re: re: re: re: re:  omg, bush is going insane!
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come now, for better or for worse, no one can get away with genocide anymore. let me clarify as i know rwanda is dancing at the tips of your tongues. i mean you can do it, but you can't do it without anyone knowing and if we did it the uproar would be such that my eardrums would bleed with the cacaphony of voices calling for impeachment and indictment and internment. kinda like now, but much much louder and with the threat of nuclear holocaust behind it. so for better or for worse the wholesale destruction of an entire culture through mass murder by an american regime is alas, no longer a possibility.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
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On the other hand, the destruction of things like the Mesopotamia museum in Iraq helps destroy the roots of a people, which is the first step to total colonization. And it is a way to destroy their culture. And to build an empire. Which is clearly the Cheney agenda. It would be Bush's too if he could spell agenda or knew how to operate his own strings.
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#46

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"ok, boys, now line up and form a perimeter around the museum, here, and defend it to the death."

i somehow cannot imagine, fathom, or even conscience asking american boys to give their lives to defend pieces of art. especially when some of the most important pieces, such as the "mona lisa of mesopotamia," have now been returned. i know it sounds like we were there to defend oil when folks were guarding the oil ministry while the museum was being sacked by iraqis, but the fact of the matter is that the oil is the best chance for iraq to bootstrap themselves into the future.

callous? perhaps, but those professors who're screaming bloody blue murder about how horribly we did this can do so without the threat of death and torture hanging over their heads no, can't they? their universities will be re-built on america's dime and the ttreasures will be returned slowly. if not they'll be recovered on the international market by law enforcement.

besides, who needs to know how to spell agander, anyways?
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
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Papalovesmambo i resent the use of the phrase New Palestine, thats the name of the town I have been born and raised in, i do not want it to be relocated to the moon or have another new Palestine, it would just confuse people.
My avatar is a reminder to myself. I need lots of reminders...
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okay now, everybody sing along to the tune of billy bragg...

i don't want to change the world
i'm not looking for a new palestine
i'm just looking for another girl
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#50

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Always singing the songs of the worker, pap. It's so funny how a coupla nimrods around here think I don't like them because of their POLITICS. J'adore you and we're very different politically. All you have to be is smart, funny, well-read and back up what you say. If a person can't do that, but pontificates anyway, then I do think it's Open Moron Season.
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