Olbermann's Special Comment tonight - Hillary Clinton- Page 2

[pab]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 12:16am

I think that Hillary Clinton has a great deal to offer and she got a very nice bump from the Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island primaries. New polls suggest that if some people had to vote over they would choose her and not Obama but they still see him having a better chance to beat McCain in the general.

Both campaigns have made missteps but it seems that the Obama camp has handled them better. I saw the comment as a plea for her to get her campaign in order if she is going to have any chance of getting the nomination, which, even though it seems like a long-shot, could still be possible.

I really believe that Ferraro's comments should have been repudiated right away but I also feel that that opportunity still exists. Ferraro looks as if she intends to continue down the same road she started, based on the tone of her resignation later. If she continues on this tack of BitchAssness without anything being said, it can only hurt Clinton.

[cubanpab]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 9:04am

keith is awesome. and i didnt see any hate in that. i saw someone filled with passion and dissapointment.

but i'm also starting to get really tired of all this crap... i love obama, and i certainly can tolerate hillary, but i want to know who the damn nominee is already. just pick one of them. i'll vote for either.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 9:09am

...became...another loudmouthed fathead shouting till he was blue in the face, goosing up his ratings by spewing hatred to an already hating audience.

became? became? some would say that's what he's always been, but since he was arguing your points he was instead of the above description, a clarion call for truth, justice and the internationale.

god, i love this primary! every morning another orgasmic burst of vitriol from one democrat against the other.

Updated On: 3/13/08 at 09:09 AM

[Unknown User]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 9:19am

He was dead on with at least one point: Comments like this make it harder for any Democrat to get elected in 2008.

[cubanpab]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 9:35am

i think the best part of his special comment was:

FDR served 6 years as governor and state senator
teddy roosevelt served 4 1/2 years
woodrow wilson 2 year and 6 weeks

richard nixon? 14 years

experience...

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 9:47am

fdr was also assistant secertary of the navy 1914-1920.

teddy roosevelt wasn't elected president, he was vice president when mckinley was killed. hew was subsequently re-elected, but that falls under the po0litics of incumbency which is a separate beast. so this one actually would auger for bammy to be qualified for the veep slot which he's already rejected.

wilson would not have even gotten in if the gop could have gotten itself together in '12. but he was considered one of the leading intellectuals of his time and had served 8 years as president of princeton university.

so i'm not sure what lying about on person's record and distorting two others really gets anyone other than the glory of looking like a fool to anyone who can type g-o-o-g-l-e.

[kelzama]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 9:56am

I'm amused at his comment at 1:10, where it seems he implies that this sort of nasty campaigning is a republican trait, new to the dems.

"You are now campaigning as if BO were the Dem and you were the Rep. As Shakespeare wrote, senator, that way madness lies"

[cubanpab]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 10:05am

well, its true. clinton answering a question from a reporter on whether or not Obama is a Muslim, she said "not as far as i know". throw in the red telephone ad, i mean its a little disturbing because it all feels a little republican-ish to me.

i guess considering she was elected president of the Young Republicans while in college means she picked up a few of the ol' republican tricks in her youth... she's putting them to good use.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 10:29am

or maybe the gop picked them up from lbj and his daisy. or maybe from mondale's '84 versions. to claim that negative advertising or fear mongering is the exclusive domain of one party is naive. almost as naive as pretending it doesn't work.

[artscallion]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 10:31am

Of course fear mongering works. It got us into Iraq.

[kelzama]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 10:36am

cuban, you kinda missed the point.

Nasty campaigning exists on both sides of the aisle. There's nothing uniquely "right" about any of Clinton's recent campaign antics.

[cubanpab]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 11:34am

kelzama, i dont think i missed the point... i understand nasty campaigning exists on both sides... but the particular type of "nasty campaigna" senator clinton has decided to engage in is interesting to me.

a few days ago when Powers called la clinton a "monster" people on here were jumping all over obama saying he had exposed himself as just another typical politician who "couldnt control his people" blah blah blah... even tho Powers resigned just hours after the incident.

clinton lets ferraro go on for 10+ days, considering what ferraro said was much worse than what powers said, and not one word on here from her supporters calling her a "typical politican who cant control her people". plus her remarks about obama not being a muslim "as far as she knows", and the red telephone ad to me were a good use of fear politics... something that you might think is used by both sides, but i've always seen it as a republican tactic... anyhow... like i said before, this election is exhausting. if she wins, just let her win already so we can move on.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 11:41am

and i've always seen a hatred for america as a tenet of the democrats. hey, that's just my opinion. you're free to disagree.

[cubanpab]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 11:48am

and i've always seen wacko republicans use the "democrats hate america" excuse as a way to say that if you dont agree with them, you are unpatriotic.

bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb iran

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 11:51am

swing and a miss. oh, he was going for the fences with that one and completely whiffed.

[cubanpab]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 1:57pm

papa how many different identities do you have on here? papalovesmambo, gothampc, any more?

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 2:01pm

see, now that's a blinded cocoon dweller who sees those who don't share his views as indistinguishable. typical for a bammy supporter. come november you'll be wondering how it was possible that your guy lost when no one you knew ould have voted for anyone else.

good luck trying to sell me as a puppeteer, kiddo. i was here long before you and have bandied with much better than you'll ever achieve.

[tazber]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 2:03pm

No papa, bammy won't be running anymore come September.

Updated On: 3/13/08 at 02:03 PM

[JohnBoy2]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 2:11pm

Tonight Keith Olbermann became Keith O'Reilly, another loudmouthed fathead shouting till he was blue in the face, goosing up his ratings by spewing hatred to an already hating audience.

Oh please! Olbermann has always been that. He didn't just become it, because he went after your girlfriend. Get a clue!

[cubanpab]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 2:19pm

papa thank god you're old.

"see, now that's a blinded cocoon dweller who sees those who don't share his views as indistinguishable. typical for a bammy supporter. come november you'll be wondering how it was possible that your guy lost when no one you knew ould have voted for anyone else."

does that mean you're open minded enough to vote for someone other than mccain?
Updated On: 3/13/08 at 02:19 PM

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 3:14pm

castroboy, i can see the difference between you, the other pab, paljoey, lildogs, joe, liverpool, south fl marc...whereas you see only the great monolithic republican hate machine. and don't kid youself about my age: with advances in medical technology and my family history there's no reason to think i can't live to at least 110 or 120.

i vote for the candidate who's views most closely approximate my own. in this case it's not even close. i might have plenty of differences with mccain, but bammy and i agree about as often as paljoey and i do.

[colleen_lee]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 4:44pm

I agree with Bill O and Karl Rove and it terrifies me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceR2pENw0XA

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 4:46pm

that's because you're a racist, colleen.

[colleen_lee]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 4:48pm

Well, I already knew that.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 4:53pm

well as long as you know it'll be that much easier for bammy to save your soul.