Oprah's The Secret of THE SECRET episode- Page 2

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 8:03pm

I'm manifesting that all your eyelashes fall out, Taz!

[tazber]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 8:08pm

I wish you would have told me that before I spent $20.00 on new mascara.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 8:13pm

Well, since my aims for The Law of Attraction always seem to be slightly off the mark, it probably means your pubes will fall out. In five or six years.

[tazber]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 8:19pm

Is that what they call it? The Law of Attraction?

That's a Brett Easton Ellis novel.

[nygrl23]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 8:29pm

There's some stuff in The Secret that I think is pretty valid--personal accountability and the feeling of control through positive thinking/ -een.

But I do have a problem with the cheesiness with which these messages are being produced and packaged. It's easy to go from accountability to entitlement with the way it's being handled. I become pretty suspicious of anything that says, "Hey, here's how you can get a diamond necklace."

[erikaamato]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 8:42pm

I think the whole thing's bunk. I mean, obviously, believing you can achieve something will help you have the perseverance necessary to eventually achieve your goals...and if sticking pictures up on a corkboard will help keep you inspired and focused, that's great. But that's as far as I go with this whole "visualizing" stuff. I mean really... you can "manifest" things just by thinking about them? Oy.

[Jane2]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 8:48pm

Exactly Erika, no one needs a book to know that having a positive attitude can attract more to you than thinking and being negative. You know, the self fulfilling prophecy.

Gotta hand it to the swindler who's making tons of money. I compare it to Dr. Phil-he states the obvious to the oblivious.

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 8:50pm

I think the true secret is that the woman who wrote, "The Secret" is making a killing at the bank. Dontcha think?!

[Jane2]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 8:52pm

Yes, indeedy weedy!

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 8:53pm

I guess that means you're just not smart enough to understand Quantam Physics like me and the columnist from O magazine, Erika, even if you did go to some fancy college and speak French with the pronounciation of a native as heard on your cover of Serge Gainsbourg's "L'Anamour" on the Velvet Chain cd "Asteroid Belt."

Oh my god, you put out to the universe that you wanted somebody to shill for you and it happened! That's like Reverse Secretology, I think!
Well, I won't fall for it.

[erikaamato]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 9:02pm

Namo: That is one high-LARE-ious post!

Jane: My thoughts EXACTLY. (Regarding both "The Secret" and Dr. Phil!)

[Chevstriss]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 9:26pm

so if you are positively visualizeen and stalk . . uh I mean thinkeen about your famous (or even not so famous) crush that person will fall in love with you just like you are desireen? you just put their pic on your board?

then every obsessed stalker would get their crush in the sack wouldn't they? or are they doeeeen it wrong?

[PalJoey]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 9:29pm

Exactly Erika, no one needs a book to know that having a positive attitude can attract more to you than thinking and being negative.

Well, no one except for 5 million people, so far.

In the United States alone.

[Jane2]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 9:31pm

That's why I compared it to Dr. Phil

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 10:00pm

No Chev, what I think I gleaned from the show is that you have to want something, visualize it, and then let it go. The O columnist invoked Buddhism at that point, talking about people who grip their desires too tightly, you should excuse the expression.

Basically, I think what they were saying was something like, you have to know what you want, write it down somewhere, put it up on a cork board, and then PRETEND you're not interested. Like totally you couldn't care less.

And THEN, because the universe is abundant and there is plenty, you get it. But especially you'll get it if you forgot you wanted it in the first place.

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Posted: 2/6/08 at 10:01pm

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Updated On: 2/6/08 at 10:01 PM

[Jane2]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 10:05pm

Namo, that's not what I got from the film. Oprah's way is much easier-it's the lazy man's method of getting things. The way I heard it, you have to concentrate long and hard on what you want.

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 10:17pm

Jane2, concentrating long and hard is eh, well, just too hard.

[geaj]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 10:21pm

Ok, tonight I'm envisioning that I will win the 52 mil Powerball lottery. I'll check in tomorrow to let you know what happens!

[wickedrentq]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 10:22pm

My roommate is absolutely obsessed with The Secret. He made our whole house watch the DVD. I fell asleep. My friends couldn't stop laughing.

The sad thing is, I don't entirely disagree with it, like everyone said, the self-fulfilling prophecy. And I don't even think it's such a bad thing if something can inspire people to truly think positive, then that's a good thing. What kills me is how my roommate is constantly bringing it up and constantly trying to get me to agree 100%. I *hated* the whole getting-checks-in-the-mail thing. I agree that these vision boards and all that stuff is unnecessary, but I just plain don't agree with the idea that thinking positive could make things happen that are out of your control -- like my friend who tried using The Secret at Rent lotto (and was crushed when she lost). In those instances, I'm happier not expecting to get something, then I'm not disappointed.

Some things it just takes too far, though. The other day I was celebrating a victory I had at a game, and my roommate walks out with that damn book and makes me read a paragraph about how being competitive is akin to being evil and bad for society. I argued, and truly believe, that it is good for people to get competitive at games or even sports because I agree with Freud that we're all born with natural aggression and I think getting it out in games and such is a healthy way of getting it out, so it can be held in for times when it's really important.

And got was that DVD cheesy with the pause and the whole universe thing. Drove me crazy.

I just get more against it the more it gets stuffed down my throat. Which is too bad, cuz like I said, I do think something htat keeps people positive is a good thing.

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 10:28pm

Too late, geaj, I thought of that one this morning when I purchased my Powerball ticket.

[geaj]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 10:30pm

Damn! You beat me to it! Good luck!
Updated On: 2/6/08 at 10:30 PM

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 10:32pm

At least you're a good sport about it. I'll let you know how it turns out.

[Jane2]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 10:33pm

"Jane2, concentrating long and hard is eh, well, just too hard."

Dottie, LOL! I agree! Now how do we get someone else to do the concentrateen?

[geaj]

Posted: 2/6/08 at 10:39pm

Dottie - - I'm a nice guy, will you share?