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#25Penny Dreadful
Posted: 5/24/15 at 2:52am

I don't think they ever said much about his background--except that he saw his mom die.  I rather like the idea that one reason he (and to a much more degree John Clare) always speak as if they were in the romantic era to be due to the fact that Frankenstein was written then, and isn't a Victorian creation.

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#26Penny Dreadful
Posted: 5/25/15 at 2:43am

I like watching Spider-Man make out with boys. Is it just me?

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#27Penny Dreadful
Posted: 5/25/15 at 4:24pm

Nope.


 


And man I need to stop reading pieces on this show on a certain other site.  Complaints that "gays" are ruining "their" show.  Apparently they are completely unaware that this is a show written by a gay man.

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#28Penny Dreadful
Posted: 5/25/15 at 5:46pm

Dorian clearly isn't gay anyway. That's a narrow minded way of looking at it.

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#29Penny Dreadful
Posted: 5/25/15 at 6:07pm

And his new friend* is clearly transgender, so she isn't either.


 


*(with quite the impressive Lady Speed Stick)


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Updated On: 5/25/15 at 06:07 PM

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#30Penny Dreadful
Posted: 5/25/15 at 9:35pm

Is he transgender though? I was imagining something more along the lines of Billy Crudup in Stage Beauty. 

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#31Penny Dreadful
Posted: 5/26/15 at 5:45am

Perhaps not, as I was make big a bit of a joke, but he has spent all of the time we have seen him as a woman.


Pretty pretty please don't you ever ever feel like you're less than f**ckin' perfect!

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#32Penny Dreadful
Posted: 5/26/15 at 8:06pm

This show is so great. I have no idea why more people aren't watching it.

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#33Penny Dreadful
Posted: 6/1/15 at 12:22pm

I am going to need them to amp up the Dorian/Angelique scenes. I mean, show some skin! o_O


Pretty pretty please don't you ever ever feel like you're less than f**ckin' perfect!

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#34Penny Dreadful
Posted: 6/1/15 at 12:34pm

They showed enough, I thought. It was fairly erotic for cable and I'm sure they're worried about pushing it too far and alienating whatever percentage of their audience doesn't want to see that. I couldn't help but notice that it was intercut with two other heterosexual love scenes though. Perhaps that was an effort to soften the blow so to speak. 


Lily and Frankenstein though! I figured that was coming but it still surprised me. Inevitably John Clare will find out, yes? Also what happened to Lily's scars? I didn't notice them. Did they heal? Why does she look so much more alive than Mr. Clare?


And the way Angelique described her childhood I think it's safe to assume that she is transgender or at least experiencing some form of gender dysphoria in a time when little information and resources would have been available to her.


 

Updated On: 6/1/15 at 12:34 PM

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#35Penny Dreadful
Posted: 6/1/15 at 1:00pm

Just a bit of sarcasm.


 


I think Frankenstein's second creation looked much more living than the first, right? He is probably getting better with time.


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Updated On: 6/1/15 at 01:00 PM

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EricMontreal22
#36Penny Dreadful
Posted: 6/1/15 at 4:46pm

Right I think that's the assumption we are meant to make--that model 3 is an improvement over the awkward first model.  They implied as well that when he mentioned how each creation learns to speak, etc, quicker. 

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#37Penny Dreadful
Posted: 6/2/15 at 2:28pm

I feel like they're just going to kill her off though. Clare may murder her the same as he did to Proteus when he finds out they slept together. Although to be honest I was really getting the feeling that Frankenstein wanted to sleep with Proteus in the first season. Was that just me? Wishful thinking perhaps.

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#38Penny Dreadful
Posted: 6/2/15 at 9:12pm

VIctor seems to have awkward/sexual vibes with every single person, male or female.

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#39Penny Dreadful
Posted: 6/2/15 at 9:13pm

I'm kind of thinking he may have been a virgin until the last episode.

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#40Penny Dreadful
Posted: 6/2/15 at 10:54pm

Oh me too.


 


They won't killher off, will they?  Besides Clare has blind girl...

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#41Penny Dreadful
Posted: 6/2/15 at 10:57pm

That's true but I still don't think he's going to take it well if he finds out. 

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#42Penny Dreadful
Posted: 6/8/15 at 4:32pm

Well, blind girl is onto Clare. I am so hooked on this show!


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#43Penny Dreadful
Posted: 6/8/15 at 8:33pm

There was so much going on in this episode I feel like nothing actually happened. I need to watch it again.

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#44Penny Dreadful
Posted: 7/9/15 at 1:14pm

I just finished episode 8 (two more to finish the season) and Billie Piper just STOLE the show! She killed her scene with The Creature. I'll be sure not to forget her performance during the next Emmy season. And I'm not a native English speaker, but did I notice her slipping into Brona's Irish accent during her rant? If so, that was a nice touch! Between her, Eva Green, Helen McCrory and Patti LuPone, the ladies are running away with this show!

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#45Penny Dreadful
Posted: 7/10/15 at 6:06am

Patti LuPone stole the whole season for me. I wasn't a big fan of the end. I won't give spoilers, but it honestly had me wondering if there would be a season 3. I see now that there will.


Pretty pretty please don't you ever ever feel like you're less than f**ckin' perfect!

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#46Penny Dreadful
Posted: 5/4/16 at 3:04am

I hope this is the place still to post about this show.

 

Hooked all over again with season 3's first episode (available free at Sho.com and places like Amazon, which is where we watched). I think I'm going to have to subscribe to Showtime at least for the season. The cost in the long run will probably be, give or take, about what buying the season outright would* (only that's not an option at present).

 

Figuring with the 30 day free trial, and a 9 episode season, we should only have to pay $8.99 monthly fee once to see the last four episodes of the season.* (And I would've paid around $30 to "own" the season outright in HD without having to subscribe to Showtime!)

 

I have a feeling Patti LuPone may steal this season too, JG2.

 

*Edit: Obviously I cannot do Showtime math.

 


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Updated On: 5/4/16 at 03:04 AM

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#47Penny Dreadful
Posted: 5/11/16 at 1:32pm

So often when characters on these shows get so separated into their own stories, it's a danger sign. But so far it has worked wonderfully for Penny Dreadful. I am enjoying the show even more than ever. And such a smart decision to bring Patti back. 

I am a bit worried this might be the last season. The show remains under the radar and Logan said he initially had a three year plan. Add to that, that it always seemed that Dracula was the end game. And disappointed Lyle is not a series regular this year but Beale did say he was too busy with other projects and appears as much as possible. 

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#48Penny Dreadful
Posted: 5/16/16 at 10:09pm

The art direction is still absolutely luscious, even more intoxicating than Mad Men.

 

But the plot and characters now seem so capricious and malleable as to be, well, anything the writer damn well feels like. Miss Ives recovers from the depths of devastating mental illness awfully well in 3-1, imo. 

 

And you can tell when a writer has run out of viable ideas when everybody starts talking portentously and smoking like fiends--such a tired cliché.

 

But truthfully, I've been disappointed since Season 1.

 

Since this is BroadwayWorld, I'll note how I loved the presentation of the Grand Guignol, something you rarely see in the arts any more--and both backstage and in the eyes of those who'd never even imagined such wonders (Piper). It was amazing to see how a TB-ridden Irish whore can, after mixing unsatisfactorily with the higher classes, go and find a unused corner of the busy London streets in which to cough her bloody lungs out as the crowds pass by. The memes of late 19th Century London were vibrantly sculpted, and Brona's emotional journey was spectacular (as was Miss Ives' in the next, flashback episode). Although Seasons 2 and 3 hold some interest, it is this rich confluence of history, class, society and character that I miss.

Updated On: 5/16/16 at 10:09 PM

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#49Penny Dreadful
Posted: 5/18/16 at 1:25am

I thought only Miss Ives continues to smoke *fiendishly*  Penny Dreadful  I get some of your complaints, I guess they don't bother me (I've always found the show wonderfully over the top in how seriously it takes its elaborate dialogue--and to be fair, I didn't think we were meant to think Vanessa recovered from her depression over one episode, the implication being she was just starting to come out of her depression or see some hope.)

I actually think so far the show has done a good job of something that so often spells the downfall of serialized tv shows--having the characters islanded on their separate stories. 


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