'Personhood' movement trying Florida

[madbrian]

Posted: 9/23/09 at 12:34pm

In today's 'What are the wing nuts up to?' segment, we focus on the 'Personhood' movement, which aspires to grant full consitutional rights to a fetus. Their latest attempt is in Florida, though they promise to try other states as well. Their proposed amendment to the Florida constitution would outlaw all abortions, even rape & incest, as well as some forms of contraception (really). This is based on part of the GOP's 2008 platform, and would make all abortion first degree murder, and anyone who paid for an abortion would be guilty of murder for hire.
Wing nuts

[blueroses]

Posted: 9/23/09 at 12:36pm

What about the gay fetuses?

P.S. Obama needs to sign that Freedom of Choice Act, as promised, now. Updated On: 9/23/09 at 12:36 PM

[madbrian]

Posted: 9/23/09 at 12:37pm

"What about the gay fetuses?"

As long as they don't watch porn, they'll be OK.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 9/23/09 at 12:43pm

"Obama needs to sign that Freedom of Choice Act, as promised, now."

But Obama's sooooo busy right now with so many other things, he can't be expected to keep his promises! Give him time, he'll get to it. He really will. He promised, after all.

[Eris0303]

Posted: 9/23/09 at 12:43pm

Is there much porn available in the womb?

[madbrian]

Posted: 9/23/09 at 12:44pm

"Is there much porn available in the womb?"

Well, if you look out at just the right angle, and Mommy and Daddy are...

[Roscoe]

Posted: 9/23/09 at 12:45pm

Well, if drinking and smoking can affect a child in the womb, why can't watching porn make a fetus gay?

[madbrian]

Posted: 9/23/09 at 12:47pm

"Obama needs to sign that Freedom of Choice Act, as promised, now."

Um...doesn't Congress need to pass the bill before he can sign it?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 9/23/09 at 12:48pm

Here's another article on the same topic that I read yesterday.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 9/23/09 at 12:49pm

And check out THIS nut job.

[blueroses]

Posted: 9/23/09 at 1:15pm

madbrian, I don't know. You could be right. I just remember Obama saying it would be a top priority if elected.

[Plum]

Posted: 9/23/09 at 1:24pm

Blueroses, madbrian is right. Bills always have to go through Congress before being signed by the President, not the other way around.

Now, the President can help set Congress' agenda through speechmaking and other methods, but...I know this is a cliché, but he really is kind of busy right now, trying to herd them into something resembling consensus on healthcare. That's not an excuse that'll be acceptable indefinitely, and heaven knows he's found the time to do other things (like pissing me off regarding Israel, for a start), but bills never happen instantly, nor do they happen by Presidential fiat. Unless they're executive orders, but that's not the case here.

[madbrian]

Posted: 9/23/09 at 1:41pm

The bill has been introduced in prior sessions of Congress, but never made it out of committee. As far as I know, it hasn't been introduced in the current session of Congress.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 9/23/09 at 1:54pm

Obama's fierce advocacy is proving to be more selective than a lot of people thought.