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#27

pope francis is the advocate's 'person of the year.' really?

Yep. When the first reports of GRID went public, the Advocate ran an editorial urging people who were unwell to stay out of the baths til they were better.
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#28

pope francis is the advocate's 'person of the year.' really?

Until this Pope officially canonizes fellow Argentinean Evita, I gotta side with many of the posts here.
Salve, Regina, Mater misericordiae
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia
#30

pope francis is the advocate's 'person of the year.' really?

The person of the year, whether chosen by Time or the Advocate, is not an award for an achievement in social progress or for being the best person of the year.

It is an honor for a person being singularly influential in the affairs of the world.

Pope Francis certainly qualifies.

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#32

pope francis is the advocate's 'person of the year.' really?

"It is an honor for a person being singularly influential in the affairs of the world. "

Did you actually read the link I posted? You're mistaken on this one. For THE ADVOCATE, it's being singularly influential in the LGBT affairs of the world. So I would completely disagree with the notion that he "certainly qualifies."
#33

pope francis is the advocate's 'person of the year.' really?

When the Pope says "Homosexuality is wrong but I know a few homosexuals and they are good people," The Advocate will be all, "Oh my god, do you think he'd go out with us if he were gay?"
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#35

pope francis is the advocate's 'person of the year.' really?

Liza's I do disagree with you. The pope's words about gay people have been singularly influential, world news, and s major step..... yes, a small step when one considers what he really said.... but a huge step when one considers the source is the Pope. His modest recognitions of the humanity and worth of gay people, and that he is no one to judge them, is an extraordinary thing to come out of the mouth of the head of the Catholic church.

My point was that the Advocate's recognition of this significance is not an endorsement of his view as sufficiently progressive, it is a recognition of what he has said and done about gay people as newsworthy, surprising and important. Very newsworthy, surprising and important. Because I agree that it is very newsworthy, surprising and important in the history of gay rights, I can't find fault with the decision.

Updated On: 12/18/13 at 08:46 AM

#36

pope francis is the advocate's 'person of the year.' really?


henrik, how much can (or should) a “step” mean if it effects no practical changes in the Church or its doctrine? If a “step” is merely symbolic, merely rhetoric – as, in my opinion, this Pope’s “steps” have been – it can all be undone in the blink of an eye. Just look at how wildly the tone swung from Ratzinger to Francis. What if the Pope were to die tomorrow and get replaced by another Ratzinger – or someone worse?

Without any practical effects, all “The Advocate” is recognizing here is P.R., and that’s a soulless, conscience-less thing to do, especially in a year with Edie Windsor in the offing.

Namo was spot-on when he wrote “Soooo soooo grateful for crumbs.” That may have been passable once upon a time, but with the whole cookie in sight, crumbs are only going to keep us on the ground.

(I’m also shooting for Worst Metaphor of the Day; around here, there’s usually stiff competition for that award.)



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Updated On: 12/18/13 at 08:57 AM

#37

pope francis is the advocate's 'person of the year.' really?

Anything can be undone in a blink of an eye.

What Pope Francis has said, it seems to me and many others, has a great deal of impact on the way a billion or so people think. It's not merely rhetorical, it's a moment than reverberates and might well leads to social change, little by little; it means a great deal when one looks at it with patience and a sense that historic movement can sometimes pivot on a dime, even a nickel.
#38

pope francis is the advocate's 'person of the year.' really?

Michelangelo Signorile explains it all for everyone in an excellent post that looks at the issue from all sides.

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Sure, we should note that Francis has made some relatively supportive statements toward gays this year, but to make Francis the person of the year for the LGBT community, when so many others have worked tirelessly to advance equality, is silly and seems like a PR move by the Advocate to get attention. Bravo for them, they got it. How it advances LGBT rights and upholds our credibility when we give out honors so lightly, however, is another matter.




Michelangelo Signorile, Huff Post: No, Pope Francis Is Not the LGBT Person of the Year

Updated On: 12/18/13 at 02:14 PM

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