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Private Screenings - Charlton Heston

on TCM right now (8:00 PM eastern) Maybe we'll learn a little more about him from Robert Osborn than just the reputation.
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mamie4 5/14/03
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Dang! I missed most of it. Just catching the end now...
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I like the man.

I don't agree with him all the time, I don't share all of his views, but I respect him as an actor, and as a human being.

Now... Ben-Hur.

What a friggin' incredible movie!
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The Private Screenings episode with Ann Miller is on tomorrow morning at 9 am Eastern time. Don't miss it if you haven't caught it before. It's a wonderful look into her life and career.
"The gods who nurse this universe think little of mortals' cares. They sit in crowds on exclusive clouds and laugh at our love affairs. I might have had a real romance if they'd given me a chance. I loved him, but he didn't love me. I wanted him, but he didn't want me. Then the gods had a spree and indulged in another whim. Now he loves me, but I don't love him." - Cole Porter
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Indeed. The interview was good and it did remind me that the best thing about being an American is our right to disagree politically with our fellow Americans - and admire them for their non-political lives at the same time. That man certainly gave me hours and hours of entertainment and for that I'm very grateful. None of those hours were better than this film!

(He talked about how many takes Wyler put them through for small scenes - like his entering his deserted home after returning from Rome. Oddly enough whenever I hear this film mentioned, that's the scene that immediately comes to my mind. That man definitely knew what he was doing!)
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mamie4 5/14/03
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Mamie--that's fascinating. It's one of the most memorable scenes for me too... and I took it as "incidental." I had no idea how much they labored over it.

It show's you how brilliant Wyler was... to know exactly when a comparatively insignificant moment mean's everything.
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"Get your stinking paws off me you DAMN DIRTY APE"
That'll always be how I most remember Heston. I saw that movie so many times when I was younger (my Dad made sure I saw ALL of them).
He was HOT in that movie, too!
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Besty - He said he didn't think the scene was anything important. He just entered the empty house and walked across the courtyard. No dialog, no fancy tricks. He did it once and Wyler told him to do it again. He gave him no guidance at all about how he wanted it played - he just wanted it done again - and again, and again. Finally on the 10th take he begged Wyler to let him know what it was he was looking for. The director said - "the first time we filmed it, you stepped on a broken tile. It made an interesting sound and I wanted to see if you could do it again." I remember the first time I saw the scene, the darkened courtyard almost seemed haunted by the ghosts of the happy people who had once lived there. Then that sharp sound of the broken tile being kicked across the floor brought you back to the present and spoke volumes of the changes the house had undergone since Judah Ben Hur had last been there. It also was a direct reminder of what had happened to cause the devastation. It was very simple - and very powerful.
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mamie4 5/14/03
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Did anyone see that newsreel they just ran? I'm guessing that it was Italian because you never heard a word of dialog. It showed the hunt for the 4 white horses used in the chariot scene. They showed the horses being trained (to bow and then lay down - remember in the tent with the Arab?). Then they taught them to run harnessed together and then jump a fence together. The final scene showed them dressed (in their fancy harness costumes) and being photographed (and interviewed?) by the press. All the humans in the reel appeared to be Italian so I'm pretty sure it was filmed there.

I love seeing these little background bits.
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mamie4 5/14/03
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I love all those little things too. And tonight while I was watching that scene after the chariot race with Massala about to die, I marveled at the great acting coming from both men, especially Heston.
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I love all those little things too. And tonight while I was watching that scene after the chariot race with Massala about to die, I marveled at the great acting coming from both men, especially Heston.
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Grrrr... I'm so sorry I missed it! (I had rehearsal until late.) I wish I'd known; I would've recorded it. re: Private Screenings - Charlton Heston
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Erika,
You might check out their web site to see if any of these interviews are available on tape. Robert Osborn came on at the beginning and said that they were changing their scheduled programming in order to present this tribute to Charlton Heston. Then he talked a tiny bit about the interview which had actually taken place 10 or ll years before as part of the Private Screenings series.
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mamie4 5/14/03
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They should really release a collection of "Private Screenings" on DVD.

They do include it from time to time on a Warner Home Video release. But not nearly as often as they should.

Just like the AMC "Backstory" shows end up on Fox DVDs. There's a tie-in.

"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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You're so right. Annie Miller is on now. I just loved her! I'm supposed to leave here in about 5 minutes to go to a baseball game. I just decided that arriving there late is not going to be a problem...
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That was great! She didn't disappoint. Every time I see something like this I start missing the old studio system. (Then I remember Judy Garland and others and get back to earth.)
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mamie4 5/14/03
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Mamie: Good idea; I will. And I watched the Ann Miller one, too! Really interesting stuff.

And yeah, bestie, I totally agree: they should release them on DVD!
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Erika--The studio system took over actors' lives. They did everything for them, from find them a gardener to teach them fencing lessons, to loan them a gown and chauffeur for the Oscars. Everything (all on loan). For those who were able to manage things on their own, it was a good thing. A very helpful thing. For those who couldn't manage their outside lives by themselves, and relied upon this kind of help and support 100 percent, it was both essential and potentially dangerous. That's why Garland got into so much trouble.

Her mother wasn't raising her, she was "managing" her. The studio raised Garland, and that's where the trouble started. Movie studios aren't mothers. They're businesses.
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Have you seen the Ann Miller episode, besty? I asked you that in that TCM thread.
"The gods who nurse this universe think little of mortals' cares. They sit in crowds on exclusive clouds and laugh at our love affairs. I might have had a real romance if they'd given me a chance. I loved him, but he didn't love me. I wanted him, but he didn't want me. Then the gods had a spree and indulged in another whim. Now he loves me, but I don't love him." - Cole Porter
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As I recall I caught some of it a while back, when it first aired. I don't recall seeing the whole thing though.

I remember Ann talking about filming Shakin' the Blues Away with a broken back. I can't even fathom that. But she knew it was her big chance at MGM, so she hid the injury and went for it.

I think the word "trooper" was invented for Ann Miller. So incredible.

EDIT: I should probably jump out of the Heston thread, and put this comment on the other one!

My apologies for the thread-jack.
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bestie: Yes, I actually knew all that already. (Slight tangent: Have you read the Bette Davis biography, "Dark Victory?" A bit dry, but still fascinating to me. Goes deeply into all her trials and tribulations with Warners, among other things...)

Not 100% why your post was directed at me... I just said I'd love to see these interviews on DVD. :-P
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It was just a general comment, directed at you only because you mentioned the studio system and how good and bad it can be.

I haven't read Davis's book, but I know the gist of the ongoing story from the inside. My grandfather was there during this time. He was the Exec. VP and Treasurer of Warner Bros. On the board of dir. and ran the NY office with Albert Warner. He controlled the star's salaries, the budgets of the films, and was consulted on the hiring and firing of everyone under contract. He was also in charge of all worldwide distribution.

He was not a fan of Davis (as a person). He liked Crawford, though.

There's an interesting "objective" book available called "Inside Warner Bros." that is made up of all the inter-office memos going back and forth between the executives at Warners. My grandfather is one of them, mentioned a few times. And it's very eye-opening to read what was discussed, and to see the behind-the-scenes opinions of the antics and politics. It ain't glamorous, or kind. But it's real.
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Actually, I didn't mention the studio system at all. (Until after your post to me, that is.) That's why I was confused. I think you meant your post for Mamie. She was the one who mentioned the studios and Garland. re: Private Screenings - Charlton Heston
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LOL, erika. It WAS Mamie. No wonder you thought I was crazy.

Okay, time for an eye test!
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