#1
Posted: 3/13/14 at 11:29am
Rooney Mara to play Tiger Lily in Pan
#2
Posted: 3/13/14 at 1:38pm
At first I thought they meant for the live TV musical. LOL
But this made me cringe ...
WB dated the film for July 17, 2015, and sees it as a franchise that can appeal to the “Harry Potter” and “The Lord of the Rings” fan base.
Dear god, Peter Pan stretched thin, bled dry, and expanded as a franchise?
But this made me cringe ...
WB dated the film for July 17, 2015, and sees it as a franchise that can appeal to the “Harry Potter” and “The Lord of the Rings” fan base.
Dear god, Peter Pan stretched thin, bled dry, and expanded as a franchise?
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#3
Posted: 3/13/14 at 1:45pm
Always love your insight, Besty. So I have to ask what you think about this blurb:
"The film will be a new take on the classic story. It is set during World War II and follows an orphan named Peter who is kidnapped by pirates and brought to Neverland, where he discovers he’s destined to save the land from the pirate Blackbeard.
The world being created is multi-racial/international – and a very different character than previously imagined."
"The film will be a new take on the classic story. It is set during World War II and follows an orphan named Peter who is kidnapped by pirates and brought to Neverland, where he discovers he’s destined to save the land from the pirate Blackbeard.
The world being created is multi-racial/international – and a very different character than previously imagined."
#4
Posted: 3/13/14 at 2:07pm
It sounds like they're taking Peter Pan (the character and the story) almost in name recognition only, then adding a plot that is more in line with Harry Potter ... Normal boy who discovers he's not normal, whisked away to a fantasy place where he learns he has been chosen to defeat the evil villain.
EDIT: They did the same thing with the recent Alice In Wonderland AND Oz the Great and Powerful films.
EDIT: They did the same thing with the recent Alice In Wonderland AND Oz the Great and Powerful films.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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Updated On: 3/13/14 at 02:07 PM
#5
Posted: 3/13/14 at 2:39pm
…and Snow White AND Maleficent AND Cinderella…
#6
Posted: 3/13/14 at 2:43pm
But how is Tiger Lily described in the original story? I can't get the Disney image out of my head about her
and Rooney is not..
and Rooney is not..
#7
Posted: 3/13/14 at 3:17pm
Is Jasmine Ejan Native American?
She actually looks like Rooney.
I have no problems with characters in a fantasy world not to be played by the appropriate ethnicity and nationalities.
I think Rooney will be fantastic and I look forward to seeing her work.
IMDb doesn't credit anyone in the Disney version of Peter Pan.
She actually looks like Rooney.
I have no problems with characters in a fantasy world not to be played by the appropriate ethnicity and nationalities.
I think Rooney will be fantastic and I look forward to seeing her work.
IMDb doesn't credit anyone in the Disney version of Peter Pan.
Updated On: 3/13/14 at 03:17 PM
#8
Posted: 3/13/14 at 4:21pm
More of this revisionist crap about public domain characters -- pass. Kidnapped by pirates indeed -- why the need to turn Peter Pan into a victim? It was among the less appealing aspects of that STARCATCHER schlock too -- J.M. Barrie gave Peter Pan a perfectly adequate origin story, and it has nothing to do with being kidnapped or orphaned or abandoned.
Well, maybe Joe Wright can make something out of it. I'm not hopeful, though.
Well, maybe Joe Wright can make something out of it. I'm not hopeful, though.
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Updated On: 3/13/14 at 04:21 PM
#9
He never grows up, so it sort of makes sense for a series. But why does anyone think this revisionist thing will ever go over?
Use a boy named something else. Say it's "suggested by" Peter Pan. But write your own damn story.
(And, for the record, I loved Peter and the Starcatcher. It was the exception, not the rile.)
Posted: 3/13/14 at 4:47pm
He never grows up, so it sort of makes sense for a series. But why does anyone think this revisionist thing will ever go over?
Use a boy named something else. Say it's "suggested by" Peter Pan. But write your own damn story.
(And, for the record, I loved Peter and the Starcatcher. It was the exception, not the rile.)
#10
It sounds like they're taking Peter Pan (the character and the story) almost in name recognition only, then adding a plot that is more in line with Harry Potter ...
Disney did that with Hercules. They took Superman's backstory -- super being from another world "orphaned" and taken in by adoptive earthling parents, grows up out of place due to his mighty strength, leaves small hometown for metropolis to find his lot in life -- and gave it to their bastardized Hercules. The actual legend is nothing like that.
Posted: 3/13/14 at 5:21pm
Disney did that with Hercules. They took Superman's backstory -- super being from another world "orphaned" and taken in by adoptive earthling parents, grows up out of place due to his mighty strength, leaves small hometown for metropolis to find his lot in life -- and gave it to their bastardized Hercules. The actual legend is nothing like that.
Salve, Regina, Mater misericordiae
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia
#11
Posted: 3/13/14 at 5:54pm
Oh good, we didn't have enough roles in the world for white people. I'm glad they stole some more from people of color.
#12
Posted: 3/13/14 at 8:00pm
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#13
Posted: 3/13/14 at 9:16pm
Actually, now that you mention it, SM2, the basic Harry Potter scenario sounds a lot like Superman.
But the character comes from a "fantasy" place to our "normal" world, instead of the reverse.
But the character comes from a "fantasy" place to our "normal" world, instead of the reverse.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#14
Posted: 3/13/14 at 9:33pm
SM2, I'd never noticed the Superman/Hercules thing, though I was very aware of the huge liberties Disney took with the Greek/Roman mythology (thanks three years of high school Latin).
I'd also guess that you can probably find a lot of stories that follow that formula if you go through the history of fiction.
I'd also guess that you can probably find a lot of stories that follow that formula if you go through the history of fiction.
#15
Posted: 3/14/14 at 12:23am
If you want to take religion out of it (or even if you don't), the story of Jesus follows a similar path.
He comes from another world, raised "normal" only to discover he is far from normal and destined to "save the world" from evil.
He comes from another world, raised "normal" only to discover he is far from normal and destined to "save the world" from evil.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#16
Posted: 3/14/14 at 1:07am
"I have no problems with characters in a fantasy world not to be played by the appropriate ethnicity and nationalities."
God I hate white people
God I hate white people
#17
Posted: 3/14/14 at 2:32am
"God I hate white people".
Just heard from God. He had trouble logging in to his BWW account but asked me to pass along his thoughts about your statement. He said he hates racism by anyone and as a result of your comment, he'll be taking you a lot sooner than originally planned. He also said to have a nice day.
Just heard from God. He had trouble logging in to his BWW account but asked me to pass along his thoughts about your statement. He said he hates racism by anyone and as a result of your comment, he'll be taking you a lot sooner than originally planned. He also said to have a nice day.
#18
Posted: 3/14/14 at 2:39am
"Racism" doesn't apply to white people. there is no such thing as being racist against white people. It might hurt your white ego to hear this but too bad. Try being a poc.
Bottom line-it's shameful and racist that a Native American role is going to the very Caucasian Rooney Nepotism Mara
Bottom line-it's shameful and racist that a Native American role is going to the very Caucasian Rooney Nepotism Mara
#19
Posted: 3/14/14 at 3:24am
"Racism" doesn't apply to white people. there is no such thing as being racist against white people."
Nice try. That's just a convenient BS argument that hate filled racists like you use so you can justify saying whatever nasty crap you want to say to Caucasians but would scream racism if those very same comments were ever made to you. Not working. Suggest you look up the actual definition of racism, which includes "hatred or intolerance of another race or other races".
Nice try. That's just a convenient BS argument that hate filled racists like you use so you can justify saying whatever nasty crap you want to say to Caucasians but would scream racism if those very same comments were ever made to you. Not working. Suggest you look up the actual definition of racism, which includes "hatred or intolerance of another race or other races".
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#20
Posted: 3/14/14 at 6:24am
Racism is racism. You can excuse it or justify it if you want, but it's still racism.
By the way, I realize the "great white steamroller" takes roles away from intended minorities, but nobody seems to yell when a Native American is played by a latino or asian, etc. If you look at many of the Sharks in the film West Side Story, you'll find Filipino actors, Chinese, etc., in nice supporting Puerto Rican roles like Chino and Francisca. Greek actor George Chakiris plays the principal role of Bernardo, and white/Russian actress Natalie Wood plays Maria. You'll find Rita Moreno playing the Burmese character of Tup Tim in The King and I and the white starlet Zelda Zanders in Singin' in the Rain.
I watched Lawrence of Arabia recently, with a variety of ethnic minorities playing the Arab characters in the film.
It's usually a "whites vs. all other minorities" battle when it comes to casting though, not really an issue of whether a role is cast "correctly" with an ethnic origin.
Nobody freaks out about two-time Oscar winner Peter Ustinov with a black/Ethiopian grandmother. Nobody ever puts him on the list of black Oscar winners or actors of African ancestry. Nobody ever is outraged over half East Indian star Merle Oberon or Latina star Rita Hayworth taking roles away from white leading ladies in an era when mixed-race romances were taboo.
Because in Hollywood, it's always been about how you look, never about who you are.
By the way, I realize the "great white steamroller" takes roles away from intended minorities, but nobody seems to yell when a Native American is played by a latino or asian, etc. If you look at many of the Sharks in the film West Side Story, you'll find Filipino actors, Chinese, etc., in nice supporting Puerto Rican roles like Chino and Francisca. Greek actor George Chakiris plays the principal role of Bernardo, and white/Russian actress Natalie Wood plays Maria. You'll find Rita Moreno playing the Burmese character of Tup Tim in The King and I and the white starlet Zelda Zanders in Singin' in the Rain.
I watched Lawrence of Arabia recently, with a variety of ethnic minorities playing the Arab characters in the film.
It's usually a "whites vs. all other minorities" battle when it comes to casting though, not really an issue of whether a role is cast "correctly" with an ethnic origin.
Nobody freaks out about two-time Oscar winner Peter Ustinov with a black/Ethiopian grandmother. Nobody ever puts him on the list of black Oscar winners or actors of African ancestry. Nobody ever is outraged over half East Indian star Merle Oberon or Latina star Rita Hayworth taking roles away from white leading ladies in an era when mixed-race romances were taboo.
Because in Hollywood, it's always been about how you look, never about who you are.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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Updated On: 3/14/14 at 06:24 AM
#21
Posted: 3/14/14 at 10:44am
best12bars, I'm sure that when Spielberg remakes West Side Story and doesn't cast Puerto Ricans as the Sharks that people will raise hell. I'd like to think that Hollywood has at least changed a little since the 60s. I know it's still a big old white man club but there are some signs of progress.
And I know I'd sure as hell rather have a POC play a minority role than a white person. I still can't believe they cast Nepotism Mara as a Native American when she's about as white as white can get.
FishermanBob-you're wrong. White people have never suffered from institutional racism. Ever. Your post reeks of white privilege- next you're going to be asking why there isn't a White History Month.
And I know I'd sure as hell rather have a POC play a minority role than a white person. I still can't believe they cast Nepotism Mara as a Native American when she's about as white as white can get.
FishermanBob-you're wrong. White people have never suffered from institutional racism. Ever. Your post reeks of white privilege- next you're going to be asking why there isn't a White History Month.
#22
Posted: 3/14/14 at 10:56am
And I know I'd sure as hell rather have a POC play a minority role than a white person.
I still don't think you realize this is a racist statement.
I still don't think you realize this is a racist statement.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#23
Posted: 3/14/14 at 10:59am
What's a POC?
"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney
We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
#24
Posted: 3/14/14 at 11:01am
I'm assuming "Person Of Color."
... meaning any race would be fine as long as it isn't white.
... meaning any race would be fine as long as it isn't white.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#25
Posted: 3/14/14 at 11:01am
"FishermanBob-you're wrong. White people have never suffered from institutional racism. Ever."
But it doesn't mean discrimination against "white people" doesn't exist. It does. Don't be in denial. All skin colors can experience some form of racism.
But it doesn't mean discrimination against "white people" doesn't exist. It does. Don't be in denial. All skin colors can experience some form of racism.
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