SHANIA TWAIN is still the queen of pop music!

[Jim Colyer]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:16pm

Madonna never was the queen of pop music. Madonna's music is garbage. The ABBA girls were the queens of pop music in the 70s and 80s. Shania Twain became the queen in the 90s and is still the queen. I am a songwriter. I know these things. Download Jim Colyer music free: http://www.jimcolyer.com/music/
Jim Colyer

[Plum]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:17pm

I am a songwriter. I know these things.

Congratulations. With those 8 words you completely invalidated the rest of your post. *claps* Updated On: 12/28/04 at 05:17 PM

[Bobby457]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:18pm

AWWW....Bless yer heart!

[ChicagoBwayFan]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:19pm

Dittos on Shania - she's simply the best!

[camerangel]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:20pm

I can't stand Shania.. I liked her old stuff but man I can't stand her now.


editted because I can't type today

Updated On: 12/28/04 at 05:20 PM

[MaTakeALookAtMe]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:21pm

Queen of pop???? Whatever...

I thought she was country anyway.

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:22pm

What's up with all this:

"Jewish people come to my site and download my songs: http://www.jimcolyer.com"

"I am a songwriter so I know. Download Jim Colyer music free: http://www.jimcolyer.com/music"

Plus you made two different threads promoting the same website.

Greatest songwriter?
I know these things?

EDIT: I agree with zepka; Shania Twain is a crossover.

Updated On: 12/28/04 at 05:22 PM

[zepka102]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:24pm

i think of her more as the queen of crossover artists as far as country to pop in recent history

[MaTakeALookAtMe]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:25pm

Crossover possibly...queen of pop? still no...

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:26pm

hehe. Her old stuff. It's said as if she's been around as long as, say, Tina Turner.
Now, HER old stuff I love.
And there's no way Shania is in the same league as someone like La Tina.

[robbiej]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:29pm

Not only is he a song writer, he's had some life!

Check out his website.

Anyone who considers Yvonne Elliman a celebrity is ok in my book!!!

Updated On: 12/28/04 at 05:29 PM

[Plum]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:31pm

*signs up for the Robbiej Fan Club*

[MaTakeALookAtMe]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:33pm

Who's Yvonne Elliman?





HAHA... how many of you gasped in horror?

[Liam]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:34pm

i thought madana was?

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:35pm

Oh, Robbiej, did you read that entire bio? I did...
I think it made me throw up in my mouth a little.

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:38pm

Who-oah, if I can't have robbie, I don't want nobody, baby - if I can't have robbie, whoa-oah-oah! Ohhhh!!

[My Fair Lady]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:39pm

While I'm not a fan of either one (shania or Madonna), Madonna is the queen of pop music. Shania isn't.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:47pm

Plum, you took the words right out of my mouth.


Old Shania was fabulous. "Any Man of Mine", people! Man!

[MaTakeALookAtMe]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:52pm

"whose Bed Have Your Boots Been Under" is better...

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 5:57pm

That one's not so bad. Very hummable. I also really like "That Don't Impress Me Much" (the country version, not that pop one). Her star has sadly fallen though.

[ChicagoBwayFan]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 6:02pm

Shania doesn't need a lable - she can do it all!

[ChicagoBwayFan]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 6:03pm

lable=label

[Jim Colyer]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 6:17pm

I agree, Shania does not need a label. She is the most complete female artist ever. She is the female equivalent of Elvis Presley (with help from Mutt Lange, of course).
http://www.jimcolyer.com/music/

Jim Colyer

[zepka102]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 6:18pm

we got the link... dont worry

Updated On: 12/28/04 at 06:18 PM

[BlueWizard]

Posted: 12/28/04 at 7:26pm

**Sigh.** I posted this in the Madonna thread, but I'll cut-and-paste it here too. Just change all the Britney references to Shania. (My own personal opinion of Shania is that, a) I'm proud that she's Canadian, and b) although her crossover appeal is impressive, that's her only cultural achievement: she's made country music more accessible. But she's no Madonna, who has really changed the very idea of a "female star" and what a female celebrity can do.)

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Well, if Jim thinks Shania is queen, you can bet I won't be downloading HIS music.

Back to Madonna:
Do I think she's still Queen? Well, if she's not, then there's still no one sitting on the throne. I'd say on the international level, Madonna still reigns supreme. She may not be as popular in the US (one can argue that it was due to her strong political statements before the war on Iraq that she fell; after all, her previous album "Music" delivered one of the biggest #1 singles of her career); but Madonna is still the biggest artist in the rest of the world, especially Europe.

I find the Madonna-Britney comparisons rather rediculous. It's true that Britney courts controversy just like Madonna did in the 80s; however, with Britney there's very little intellectual provocation. robbiej has described very eloquently how Madonna's roots have made her a very different cultural icon. Indeed, while Britney partied it up with Mickey Mouse, Madonna was living off the streets of New York, hanging out with artists like Keith Haring and Jean-Michel Basquiat. Thus, Madonna's work -- her music, video, and persona -- has always been much more politically active and culturally aware than Britney's.

The most political thing Britney has ever done was support the President; in contrast, Madonna was pushing the buttons of gender, politics, sexuality, art (so many of her videos are inspired by movements like German expressionism and art deco), RACE (a few of my professors still lambast Madonna for "appropriating" black culture, as if it's forbidden property), and media.

Madonna's cultural impact is, of course, influenced by the period of her fame. Her explosion on the cultural scene was in defiance of the regimes of Regan and Thatcher; Madonna's presence like a big "f*ck you" to social conservatism. Madonna actually made Pop a political force. She was (and continues to be) RELEVANT.

It's almost depressing how separated popular culture is now from politics and activism. Nothing Britney has done seems to have any relevance to the world. Can we really learn about art history from studying a Britney video like we can from a Madonna video? For all the flesh Britney bares, has she ever said one thing to further the status of women or their empowerment? For all her gay dancers, has Britney ever made any attempt to take a stand on gay rights or gay marriage? *sigh* no. Unlike Madonna, a cultural force to be reckoned with, Britney is a politically-silent corporate puppet.
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Again, you can change "Britney" to "Shania" and it'll still make sense.