#51
Posted: 7/5/05 at 2:43am
Well im soo sorry if my gaydar is not working properly.
#52
Posted: 7/5/05 at 2:57am
straight female ...
or maybe a gay man in a woman's body ...
I'm attracted to men (and married one!), but sometimes I really would love to have a penis of my own, I'll just come right out and admit it.
or maybe a gay man in a woman's body ...
I'm attracted to men (and married one!), but sometimes I really would love to have a penis of my own, I'll just come right out and admit it.
#53
Posted: 7/5/05 at 3:02am
Jbara you dont know how long I have been waiting to hear someone say that. ME TOO
#55
Posted: 7/5/05 at 9:00am
Straight Female
And the other thing about the Phantom Lady was, Bert, she realized, in the city that never sleeps...
What did she realize, Kitten?
That all the songs she'd listened to, all the love songs, that they were only songs.
What's wrong with that?
Nothing, if you don't believe in them. But she did, you see. She believed in enchanted evenings, and she believed that a small cloud passed overhead and cried down on a flower bed, and she even believed there was breakfast to be had...
Where?
On Pluto. The mysterious, icy wastes of Pluto.
#56
Posted: 7/5/05 at 9:12am
"Straight female. I took a test, I'm only 24% gay. My friends all made fun of me because I tested the straightest.",
There's a TEST? Who knew?
DG - please keep posting again and again and again - love your comments AND the penguin!
one of the minority straight guys here...
ETA: Love Google - found the Test!
http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/gaytest.html
There's a TEST? Who knew?
DG - please keep posting again and again and again - love your comments AND the penguin!
one of the minority straight guys here...
ETA: Love Google - found the Test!
http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/gaytest.html
"Not a day goes by..."
Updated On: 7/5/05 at 09:12 AM
#57
Posted: 7/5/05 at 9:37am
I must say that this is a curious thread. Why would anyone care about my sexuality? And if they did I would assume it was only to proposition me. Not just to survey. Perhaps the board management could sponsor a poll so we would know once and for all how many people of which persuasion are here. And after that we could dissect their posts on the boards and explain their opinions by virtue of the person's sexuality.
Then we can exhume Himmler and dust off the Reich tomes on what makes those gay folks tick. But really I'd rather find out what you've seen at the movies lately and how you felt about the cast. It's much more interesting.
Then we can exhume Himmler and dust off the Reich tomes on what makes those gay folks tick. But really I'd rather find out what you've seen at the movies lately and how you felt about the cast. It's much more interesting.
"Always smile at your enemies. It will keep them on their toes"
#58
Posted: 7/5/05 at 10:52am
"But really I'd rather find out what you've seen at the movies lately and how you felt about the cast. It's much more interesting."
I thought you'd never ask.
Last week I saw two really interesting films at FilmForum (as part of the "Paramount before the Code" series) : FOLLOW THRU (1930) with Nancy Carroll & Charles 'Buddy' Rogers, and JUNE MOON (1931) with Jack Oakie & Frances Dee, which has not been screened in NYC since its original release and has never been on television or available on tape or DVD.
I had seen FOLLOW THRU about five years ago and was anxious to get another look. The most perfectly preserved two-strip Technicolor film that exists, its survival is an accident. For some reason - problems with the rights, or being so far back on the shelf - the negative was spared when Technicolor did a thorough housecleaning in the mid 1950s, when the flamable nitrate negatives for all the then-obsolete two-color process films (made from the early 1920s to 1933) were destroyed in what a friend of mind refers to as "a Dachau of film". Dozens of Technicolor films (most of them early musicals) were lost, the only survival being dim and grany black and white dupes.
A Broadway-to-Hollywood musical about women golfers (Carroll & Thelma Todd) feuding over Rogers (who was adorably boyish) with too few DeSylva-Brown & Henderson songs (including "Button Up Your Overcoat" and "I Want to be Bad", FOLLOU THRU has gorgeous outtdoor photography and a pretty lamebrained plot. Neither Carroll nor Rogers can really sing and the best numbers are taken by Jack Haley and zesty Zelma O'Neal (who were both from the original Broadway production of 1928....), the latter belting out "I Want To Be Bad" in a perky red devil's suit. The talky stretches were too long between numbers but it was always pretty to look at. There were only a few pre-code moments: Once when Haley and Eugene Pallette disguise themselves as Italian plumbers to retrieve a ring from O'Neal in a woman's locker room (an excuse for a Techicolor parade of VERY scantily dressed women in flimsy underwear) and the other, a bit of racy dialogue between Haley (who got the ring from O'Neal) and O'Neal, who finds out that Haley (her husband to be) had seen her nude. "Oh, Gee! Now I won't have any surprises for you." Wiggling his eyebrows, Haley responds "Yeah, but don't worry - I've got a BIG surprise for YOU!"
Even better was JUNE MOON, with a snappy screenplay (from the Broadway play) by George S. Kauffman and Ring Lardner. Oakie (whom I can usually take in small doses) was excellent as a rube from Schenectady who comes to NYC to break into the songwriting business. He meets sweet Dee on the train, but gets diverted by the family of his songwriting partner Ernest Wood, particularly tricky golddigger June MacCloy, the sister of Sears' wife (Wynne Gibson) . It is left to his Oakie & Woods piano playing pal Harry Akst (in real life, a songwriter who helped write such hits as "Baby Face", "Dinah" and "Am I Blue" as well as others like "On the Rancho With My Pancho") and to fix things up between Oakie & Dee.
Throught the film there were intentionally funny-awful musical interludes as various songwriters perform their compositions for music publisher Sam Hardy (I wish I could remember more of one song: "I'm flying off to Tokyo, its no Jokey-o that you make my heart smokey-o" etc.)and there are such quips as "I can't talk to you now, George Gershwin just came in!" and this exchange about the ever popular "mammy" songs:
Oakie: "Songwriters love writing about their homes, thier mother and where they came from!"
Akst: "Hmmm. I never realised that Tennessee had such a heavy Jewish population."
I thought you'd never ask.
Last week I saw two really interesting films at FilmForum (as part of the "Paramount before the Code" series) : FOLLOW THRU (1930) with Nancy Carroll & Charles 'Buddy' Rogers, and JUNE MOON (1931) with Jack Oakie & Frances Dee, which has not been screened in NYC since its original release and has never been on television or available on tape or DVD.
I had seen FOLLOW THRU about five years ago and was anxious to get another look. The most perfectly preserved two-strip Technicolor film that exists, its survival is an accident. For some reason - problems with the rights, or being so far back on the shelf - the negative was spared when Technicolor did a thorough housecleaning in the mid 1950s, when the flamable nitrate negatives for all the then-obsolete two-color process films (made from the early 1920s to 1933) were destroyed in what a friend of mind refers to as "a Dachau of film". Dozens of Technicolor films (most of them early musicals) were lost, the only survival being dim and grany black and white dupes.
A Broadway-to-Hollywood musical about women golfers (Carroll & Thelma Todd) feuding over Rogers (who was adorably boyish) with too few DeSylva-Brown & Henderson songs (including "Button Up Your Overcoat" and "I Want to be Bad", FOLLOU THRU has gorgeous outtdoor photography and a pretty lamebrained plot. Neither Carroll nor Rogers can really sing and the best numbers are taken by Jack Haley and zesty Zelma O'Neal (who were both from the original Broadway production of 1928....), the latter belting out "I Want To Be Bad" in a perky red devil's suit. The talky stretches were too long between numbers but it was always pretty to look at. There were only a few pre-code moments: Once when Haley and Eugene Pallette disguise themselves as Italian plumbers to retrieve a ring from O'Neal in a woman's locker room (an excuse for a Techicolor parade of VERY scantily dressed women in flimsy underwear) and the other, a bit of racy dialogue between Haley (who got the ring from O'Neal) and O'Neal, who finds out that Haley (her husband to be) had seen her nude. "Oh, Gee! Now I won't have any surprises for you." Wiggling his eyebrows, Haley responds "Yeah, but don't worry - I've got a BIG surprise for YOU!"
Even better was JUNE MOON, with a snappy screenplay (from the Broadway play) by George S. Kauffman and Ring Lardner. Oakie (whom I can usually take in small doses) was excellent as a rube from Schenectady who comes to NYC to break into the songwriting business. He meets sweet Dee on the train, but gets diverted by the family of his songwriting partner Ernest Wood, particularly tricky golddigger June MacCloy, the sister of Sears' wife (Wynne Gibson) . It is left to his Oakie & Woods piano playing pal Harry Akst (in real life, a songwriter who helped write such hits as "Baby Face", "Dinah" and "Am I Blue" as well as others like "On the Rancho With My Pancho") and to fix things up between Oakie & Dee.
Throught the film there were intentionally funny-awful musical interludes as various songwriters perform their compositions for music publisher Sam Hardy (I wish I could remember more of one song: "I'm flying off to Tokyo, its no Jokey-o that you make my heart smokey-o" etc.)and there are such quips as "I can't talk to you now, George Gershwin just came in!" and this exchange about the ever popular "mammy" songs:
Oakie: "Songwriters love writing about their homes, thier mother and where they came from!"
Akst: "Hmmm. I never realised that Tennessee had such a heavy Jewish population."
"Christ, Bette Davis?!?!"
Updated On: 7/5/05 at 10:52 AM
#59
Posted: 7/5/05 at 10:59am
"btw I'll always have sutton as my av until she wins another tony, she should have won for Little women, extreme bull. extreme"
It'd be funny if it weren't so sad.
Victoria Clark gave one of the most layered performances in years. Foster gave a good performance, end of story.
For once, I will have to agree with Priest.
Victoria is amazing and that's that.
Victoria drives a great show straight through and adds so much of the emotion into it.
It'd be funny if it weren't so sad.
Victoria Clark gave one of the most layered performances in years. Foster gave a good performance, end of story.
For once, I will have to agree with Priest.
Victoria is amazing and that's that.
Victoria drives a great show straight through and adds so much of the emotion into it.
#60
Posted: 7/5/05 at 11:03am
I also would like to give props to Priest for consistency in his campaign to bring back the 1980s cops' sunglasses look. 
"My friends have made the story of my life."
-Helen Keller
#61
Posted: 7/5/05 at 11:06am
I love how a thread can start off by asking a very simple question ("Are you gay or straight?") and turn into a discussion of, among other things, psychiatry, gays in theatre, and the 2005 Tony Award for Best Actress in a Musical. Gotta love BWW!
BTW, I'm a straight male.
BTW, I'm a straight male.
#62
Posted: 7/5/05 at 11:07am
"2005 Tony Award for Best Actress in a Musical"
It's that or the 2004 Tony Award for Best Musical.
At least the Actress one has talent.
It's that or the 2004 Tony Award for Best Musical.
At least the Actress one has talent.
#63
Posted: 7/5/05 at 11:11am
OK, I've been a musical theatre performer for going on 20 years now and I can honestly count on one hand the number of straight men I've met who perform in musicals. So I'm apt to agree that MOST men in musical theatre are gay until proven otherwise.
"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!"
Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!
#64
Posted: 7/5/05 at 11:36am
RedHot - it probably depends on 1) where (NYC v. the rest of the world) and 2) level (professional/semi-professional v. community theatre)... out in suburbia in the community theatre world, there seem to be a lot of straight guys...
"Not a day goes by..."
#65
Posted: 7/5/05 at 11:38am
Master, thank you for that re-cap of those films. There should be more of those types of festivals here in Chicago. What a shame that so many of those films are gone forever. It makes the little gems we do find so much more special.
I love that quip from Haley. Are there more of these things coming up? Did anyone say if they are planning on transfering these to DVD?
I love that quip from Haley. Are there more of these things coming up? Did anyone say if they are planning on transfering these to DVD?
PEACE.
#66
Posted: 7/5/05 at 12:22pm
OnTheAisle - I've worked all over the United States and it's been pretty much the same everywhere. I can't tell you how many times I was in a summer stock production and over the course of the summer at least three guys in the casts who claimed to be straight would come out to me in private. I kid you not. I am a magnet for people who are confused or closeted...always have been.
"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!"
Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!
#67
Posted: 7/5/05 at 12:25pm
"For once, I will have to agree with Priest."
Do we disagree often or something?
I wasn't aware.
"I also would like to give props to Priest for consistency in his campaign to bring back the 1980s cops' sunglasses look."
You know it.
Do we disagree often or something?
I wasn't aware.
"I also would like to give props to Priest for consistency in his campaign to bring back the 1980s cops' sunglasses look."
You know it.
"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
#68
Posted: 7/5/05 at 12:27pm
I can't tell you how many times I've thought of having tee shirts printed up with a take off of that famous line from Steel Magnolias - my version: If you're the least bit confused about your sexuality, come and sit next to me!"
"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!"
Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!
#69
Posted: 7/5/05 at 12:27pm
I'm one of the hoards of straight females on this board.
Thou giveth fever.
#70
Posted: 7/5/05 at 12:28pm
I don't know, Suleen...I wish they would release them, but they probably feel that there aren't more than a few hundred or so crazy old movie geeks like us who would buy the,
I think FOLLOW THRU may be partially owned by UCLA (the UCLA Film Restoration project restored and printed the film from the original nitrate camera negative a few years ago). They sadly only screen the film sparingly.
With JUNE MOON & FOLLOW THRU, FF screened a terrifically strange Max Fleischer "Follow The Bouncing Ball" sing-along cartoon-live action short from 1930 featuring both Betty Boop AND Ethel Merman (filmed in Astoria, right when Ethel was performing in GIRL CRAZY) singing "Let Me Call You Sweetheart". The film concluded with a jaw dropping image of a scrawny cat singing the song with Mermans voice while chasing three new born chicks.
I think FOLLOW THRU may be partially owned by UCLA (the UCLA Film Restoration project restored and printed the film from the original nitrate camera negative a few years ago). They sadly only screen the film sparingly.
With JUNE MOON & FOLLOW THRU, FF screened a terrifically strange Max Fleischer "Follow The Bouncing Ball" sing-along cartoon-live action short from 1930 featuring both Betty Boop AND Ethel Merman (filmed in Astoria, right when Ethel was performing in GIRL CRAZY) singing "Let Me Call You Sweetheart". The film concluded with a jaw dropping image of a scrawny cat singing the song with Mermans voice while chasing three new born chicks.
"Christ, Bette Davis?!?!"
#71
Posted: 7/5/05 at 12:31pm
You would think that just the historical aspect of all the films you mentioned would be reason enough to release them. Every University has a film history class, don't they?
PEACE.
#72
Posted: 7/5/05 at 12:44pm
Ethel did a few of those bouncing-ball Fleischer shorts. I forgot the number, but I think I have them all of them on video and that laserdisc collection of Paramount shorts.
They're demented but not as demented at "The Animal in Me," which she performed in The Big Broadcast of 1938 sitting on top of a dancing elephant.
They're demented but not as demented at "The Animal in Me," which she performed in The Big Broadcast of 1938 sitting on top of a dancing elephant.
#73
Posted: 7/5/05 at 12:47pm
"Do we disagree often or something?"
Just seems we always have different opinions and whatnot.
Just seems we always have different opinions and whatnot.
#74
Posted: 7/5/05 at 1:23pm
Not sure if I'm gay or straight, maybe you should ask my boyfriend.
(I know, corny response)
(I know, corny response)
Cheers Cheers, Thanks a lot.
#75
Posted: 7/5/05 at 1:36pm
I like men and women, sexually; but since that study says I don't exist, label me however you like. I will say that I am more picky when it comes to what I desire in a woman, than in a man.
ConvinceMe2 is dead. Long live BrendanStryker!
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