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Snark is not original. It is essentially parasitic and lazy.

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Craig
#25snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:29pm

Everything in moderation. The issue I mostly have are those people who, like I said, ONLY have snarky comments for people (like on this message board) without adding ANYTHING ELSE to the conversation. That, regardless of the intelligence required to come up with, is, indeed, parasitic and lazy. You either have to think so highly of yourself that you just feel the need to actually contribute to a discussion you enter into, or you are, dare I say, just a miserable person who has no other option but to try and drag someone down to your current state.


"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka

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Jane2
#26snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:32pm

I've spent plenty of time thinking about internet communication. Among my conclusions is that people will type in things to others that they would NEVER say to them in person. In this way, they can be as nasty as they please.

And because it is difficult to know exactly what is meant by certain posts, because of the lack of intonation we use in person, many people are misunderstood (I've had that problem).

The net is a wonderful thing in most aspects, but not for accurate interpersonal communication, as far as I'm concerned.


<-----I'M TOTES ROLLING MY EYES

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papalovesmambo
#27snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:32pm

i am snark. and so can you.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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PalJoey
#28snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:33pm

I often feel sorry people whose only conversational style is to put down others.

They usually don't realize that their constant acts of petty aggression only lead to lifetime devoid of connection and vitality. (And if it is pointed out to the, they say, "Who cares?")

They don't understand that the subsequent reaction of most people to that kind of nastiness is simply and reflexively to avoid it in the future.

So if I notice, say, that Craww is always snarky or nasty or bitchy or unpleasant, I'm not going to interact with Craww. ("Crawww" here used or purposes of example only.)

Consequently, Craww will never know that she or he lost the opportunity of connection with me and the vitality that would have come to her or his life if she or he had been so fortunate.

These lost connections are irretrievable. Life goes on, without them.


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Reginald Tresilian
#29snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:35pm

I think you're absolutely right, Jane.

I mean, you all know I have a smart mouth, and I have occasionally in real life made a joke that I could tell was not taken the way I intended.

But because I could read the body language or facial expressions, I had the opportunity to "fix it."

Or conversely, I might be able to say something in real life and my demeanor will make it clear that I intend no harm.

We don't have those options online. Often by the time we know we've offended someone, it's too late.

Still, most people who press the snark button do know what they're doing, I think.

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papalovesmambo
#30snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:36pm

but you'd still hook up, right, pj?


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

FindingNamo
#31snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:37pm

For me the issue is "snark" is lacking any clear definition; the man who wrote the book about it says it's a case-by-case basis? It doesn't even make sense.

I know I used to have run-ins with a poster here who was totally parasitic, I'd get a funny line off and he or she would just add-on and never come up with anything original but would bask in the reflected glory of somebody else's creativity. So I get why parasitic is problematic. What I don't get is this focus of Denby's, which he can't define.

It's like he's trying to be Malcolm Gladwell but lacks the crucial ingredient of insight.


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papalovesmambo
#32snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:39pm

it's like he's trying to be malcolm gladwell but lacks the crucial ingredient of insight.

double ditto to the extreme. and yeast. he's missing yeast. and possibly vanilla extract.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

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PalJoey
#33snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:39pm

Depends on how hung.


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Jane2
#34snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:40pm

PJ, your last post was extremely insightful.


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best12bars
#35snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:41pm

Message boards like this one are a strange beast. They're hard to wrap your head around. If you really stop and think about it.

They're like an "intimate setting" where people can exchange communications along with a few others who are online as if chatting in a living room with a handful of guests, and, at the same time, anyone on the entire planet can drop by and read the posts if they choose to do so.

And people here at BWW oscillate between relaxed honesty and truth to uptight self-consciousness and phony posturing.

A lot of people get "caught in front of the camera" and don't know what to do or how to behave. So they turn into people they aren't. They exaggerate the gestures because they realize they're exposed to the world.

And on the written page (or screen in this case), it's sometimes hard to tell where they're coming from. Or who they really are.

I find that some here are way too concerned with how they're coming off. That makes them either overly aggressive with "positivity and goodness" to the point of sounding like horrible harpies themselves. I don't think they realize that either. Others are just trying to be funny and end up hurting people in the process, only to come back with, "lighten up! It was a joke!" as if their own failure as class clown is everyone else's fault.

I try to be true and clear about my opinions. And I also attempt humor. Sometimes I score, sometimes I don't. But I don't go at it with a self-aware agenda of trying to win people over. I'm just "communicating." Saying what's on my mind. Reacting to other's remarks. Trying to discuss stuff with others who supposedly like something I like, ya know?

In a way, "snark" is in the eye of the beholder. And some people need to get their eyes checked. They can't tell "snark" from "criticism." They are not the same thing. "A discouraging word" does not make the poster or the comment snarky.

And some people think that personal insults pass for humor. They don't. They're a form of abuse. Not comedy.

And yeah, I've whacked a few people over the head around here ... when provoked. They usually deserve it, too.

But to "snark" just for the thrill of it? Just for the kill? Or to try to make myself look "good?" Pass. I don't do it myself, and I'm not interested or impressed with others who do it.


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Reginald Tresilian
#36snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:45pm

Besty, I think that was extraordinarily well said.

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Reginald Tresilian
#37snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:46pm

Particularly for a douche like you.

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PalJoey
#38snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:53pm

Who happens to be extraordinarily well hung.


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papalovesmambo
#39snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:53pm

christ. since everyone is all syrupy sweet and honest and schtuff.

who i am on bww is who i am. that means i fluctuate wildly from heart on the sleeve honesty and emotion to vicious barbarism. but there is not a thing that i type that i would not say if we were sitting across from each other, next to each other or if we were hanging upside down from a trapeze. anybody here who knows me - and there are plenty - knows that.

i don't have the time or inclination to invent anything so yer stuck with me.

i don't get hung up too much in who people are here. if you have nothing to offer it's apparent pretty quickly. after that, unless they happen to hit a nerve, i pretty much ignore them. if i even noticed them in the first place.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

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Mister Matt
#40snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:55pm

Snarking is cool, beyotch!


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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Reginald Tresilian
#41snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:55pm

I want to hear more about this trapeze idea.

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Jane2
#42snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 3:57pm

"there is not a thing that i type that i would not say if we were sitting across from each other, next to each other or if we were hanging upside down from a trapeze. "

I think I get that, judging from the first night I met you. But we're speaking in generalities. At least I am.


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Unknown User
#43snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 4:03pm

Snark is always second person; i.e. "I made a witty, caustic comment. You can do nothing but snark."

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PalJoey
#44snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 4:04pm

Papa gets a pass, out of sheer pity, for his politics.


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papalovesmambo
#45snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 4:04pm

when papa snarks, everybody listens. papa's like e.f. hutton y'all.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

Roscoe
#46snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 4:16pm

What?


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

Craww
#47snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 4:16pm

Like on the texting thread, the generation gap is also something to consider. People in their early 20s speak snark. (We're clearly responsible for the decline of modern society too. Sorry bout that.)

when papa snarks, everybody listens. papa's like e.f. hutton y'all.

I never viewed your comments as snark, funnily enough. I always thought it was just rabble rousing.

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Reginald Tresilian
#48snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 4:25pm

" never viewed your comments as snark, funnily enough. I always thought it was just rabble rousing."

Craww, this may be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

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Mister Matt
#49snark is not original. it is essentially parasitic and lazy.
Posted: 1/14/09 at 4:34pm

Oh, we definitely have some older snarkers around here, Craww. I think it might be more of a generational issue on other boards, but not so much on BWW.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian


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