Star Trek Into Darkness- Page 2

[Wynbish]

Posted: 5/28/13 at 3:11pm

I know some people were upset about the use of Kahn and called using villains from the original timeline "lazy storytelling" but I don't mind it.

People just gotsta be upset about some ish. There's nothing wrong with using Khan in an alternate-reality storytelling. Nero's altering reality in the first movie did not erase Khan and his people from existence. Is it lazy to replicate, yet reverse a scene from WoK? Maybe, but it was also brilliant and so well done. If it's well done, let it be.

It's a little thing, but I love when sequels do not give a tongue-in-cheek wink to the first movie. The only reference I can remember is Pike finding Kirk at the bar. For an example of what I mean, the sequel to The Mummy was horrible with this. Every bit of action received a "Not this again! Not you guys again! Damn, not again!"

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 5/28/13 at 3:29pm

I loved the bar scene with Kirk being whatever the future equivalent of a metrosexual is, with his hair highlights and pink lipstick. He looked just like David Bowie in the Blue Jean video.

[Wynbish]

Posted: 5/28/13 at 3:35pm

I think I have this shade

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 5/28/13 at 5:28pm

Just got back to it, and loved it.

I thought it played a nice homage to the earlier film, but kept the tone and story unique and current.

I love badass Uhura, and as Namo said, Quinto stole the film. I also thought the morality of the story is so relevant to today that it made the film resonate and current. The scene with Pine and Quinto, even though I knew it was coming, was so effective, and it got me.

I like how it framed the character development for the 5 year mission.

I grew up watching the original series, and think that this cast is a great update to the original.

I did wonder why the SF Golden Gate Bridge would not have been updated 250 years from now though. I kept thinking - wouldn't that monstrosity finally be replaced in the future?

[John Adams]

Posted: 5/28/13 at 9:55pm

>> cumberbatch was wasted as khan. as written, the character is just another "psychotic genius who is 523 steps ahead of the protagonists" type that hollywood is so in love with now.

****VEILED, BUT POSSIBLE SPOILERS*****
I saw this version of Khan not as psychotic, but purposeful. Cumberbatch has a really nice monolog in the film that he delivers very well. His acting and that speech fulfill the major requirement for a good villain regarding motive.

I had a lot of fun watching this. I see a lot of similarities between this franchise and the Dr. Who franchise, the biggest one being that they're both entertaining enough for adults, but definitely written at a logic level that satisfies tweens. If you're not a tween, you can probably predict one character's outcome pretty easily - although I was thrown a bit by some blatant mention of "cryogenics" and "warp speed" mentioned earlier in the movie. I also see similarities between the technical workings of the Tardis and the Enterprise.

In both this movie and its predecessor, there is dialog between two, specific characters (>wink, wink<) that contain double entendre. The double meaning makes me consider, "is this a dialog between two characters, two real-life actors, or both?" I like that.

I also liked the possible, partial origin story created for a very popular, but "troublesome" (>wink, wink<) character from the original TV series.

Although I understand that this J.J. Abrams franchise is an alternate universe, I was a little disappointed that one, specific scene (>wink, wink<) was an almost identical mirror to a scene from a previous franchise - with some very specific (and even 'iconic') blocking and setting. It's one thing to "homage" predecessors (there's a lot of fun in that), but in this case, mirroring the original movie scene without its original cast members loses the Trekkie "historical" significance, so it just came off as being a much less meaningful "copycat" scene.

I completely agree with everyone else - Quinto is amazing. All of the supporting male actors have been future husbands of mine at some point (even more so than the leading men), so this franchise is chock-full of eye candy as far as I'm concerned.

****DEFINITE SPOILER ALERT****
I only have one question. When Spock does his Vulcan mind-meld on the dying Captain Pike, there's a brief moment when he does a noticeably surprised (almost fearful) wince. Did I miss it, or was it ever revealed why Spock reacted that way?
Updated On: 5/28/13 at 09:55 PM

[Wynbish]

Posted: 5/28/13 at 10:31pm

I think that wince was just Spock feeling Pike feeling the emotions he told Kirk later. Fear was one of them. I think the worst one was loneliness.