Starship Troopers
Starship Troopers
Borstalboy
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#1Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/16/07 at 11:07am
Okay, so I have been on a bit of a Paul Verhoven kick ever since seeing the magnificent BLACK BOOK and, after ten years, I finally got around to seeing this.
People seem to either love it or hate it. I see it as a hilarious piece of backhanded pro-fascism propaganda. Verhoven says in his commentary that he was hugely influenced by the American war films and propaganda trailers of WWII. Even the corny dialogue and horrible acting (Caspar Van Dien seems to have been cast solely upon the squareness of his head)
seem to work. Loved it. Keep an eye out for a shades-donning Rue McClanahan of all people! Oh, and it features Doogie Houser in Nazi drag. Brilliant.
I also caught FLESH AND BLOOD, another blood-soaked Verhoven amorality fest, and liked it, too though not as much as STARSHIP TROOPERS. Rutger Hauer has never been hotter and Jennifer Jason Leigh may be the most beautiful naked woman in film history. More odd casting: Bruno Kirby as a gay soldier and Nancy "Bart Simpson" Cartwright as Jennifer Jason Leigh's maid.
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#2re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/16/07 at 11:13am
I love ST. It's so much deeper than people realize. There is fascist symbolism through the entire movie.
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I also think he directed the actors to be stilted on purpose.
And yes, NPH in a nazi trenchcoat was priceless.
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#2re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/16/07 at 11:17am
Starship Troopers is one of my guilty pleasures!
It's just good, cheesy fun!
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Borstalboy
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#3re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/16/07 at 11:27amI love how, in the battle scenes, there is the most shocking carnage everywhere, yet they still manage to have time to shout "WOO-HOO!" everytime they kill a bug.
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#4re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/16/07 at 11:28amI love Starship Troopers! As someone once said "They covered Doogie Howser with Nazi accessories and then tell you HE's the Hero?"
#5re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/16/07 at 11:29amAnd let us not forget Casper Van Diem's butt shot in the co-ed shower. Icing on the cake!
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#6re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/16/07 at 11:51amLove this movie. Terrific action movie, with a sense of humor.
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#7re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/16/07 at 11:52amThank you, tazber, for mentioning what I was thinking.
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#11re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/16/07 at 4:39pmWonderful movie! It was like watching a live-action comic book. And the score is fantastic. I have the CD as well.
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#12re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/16/07 at 4:42pmwas there a remake and nobody told me? what the hell movie did you people watch? other than the ghost guy's butt, this movie had no value.
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#13re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/16/07 at 5:19pm
"And let us not forget Casper Van Diem's butt shot in the co-ed shower. Icing on the cake!"
And the fun you can have "frame by frame"-ing the shot of his butt...
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#14re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/16/07 at 5:48pmDefinitely a guilty pleasure.
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#15re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/17/07 at 4:55pm
I don't get why critics were largely wise enough to get thaty Robocop by Verhoeven with its excessive violence and near fascist law enforcement was a biting satire of America but not see the same with the even more over the top Troopers. Dumb dumb...
Still nothing will ever top for me The Fourth Man for Verhoeven greatness (I like Spetters too though not as much)--I don't really see why he calls it a prequel to Basic Instinct thoguhg
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#16re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/17/07 at 7:28pmActually I thought it caught Henleins concept well. Sadly.
#17re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/17/07 at 9:47pm
The book is SO much better, but the movie is delicious!
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#18re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/17/07 at 9:48pm
It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story...
AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956
#19re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/17/07 at 9:50pm
It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story...
AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956
#20re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/17/07 at 9:51pm
It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story...
AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956
#21re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/17/07 at 9:53pm
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It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story...
AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956
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#22re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:22amReally? Verhoeven hated the novel he's said (it reads very poorly IMHO tho I can see why it does appeal to a lot of people)
#23re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:27am
We watched it on Turner Classic Movies other night, of all channels.
Great movie.
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#24re: Starship Troopers
Posted: 4/18/07 at 7:58am
Funny I saw Verhoeven's Robocop on TCMovies the other night--but not Starship Troopers. I guess they liek to sneak some of his movies in...
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