Thank you John Edwards
Thank you John Edwards#1
Posted: 1/8/08 at 11:52pmI think his dis on Hillary Sat night was the beginning of Hillary's comeback in NH. He was trying to sqeeze her out of the race by aligning himself with Obama. It appeared that the two men were in cahoots. Seems like it backfired bigtime. Thanks John!!
re: Thank you John Edwards#2
Posted: 1/8/08 at 11:58pm
Hillary has been the media darling and fronter runner since well before she even announced her candidacy. John Edwards has been virtually ignored and yet has tenaciously held on to a significant percentage of the vote. He aligned himself with Obama because he clearly feels that real change is due in the White House rather than retroactive change.
Edwards is a really admirable guy. If anybody has had the advantage it's Hillary Clinton every step of this process.
joey
re: Thank you John Edwards#2
Posted: 1/9/08 at 12:01amNever said she didn't have the advantage, but Edwards aligning himself with Obama at this early primary stage was a huge mistake. It will lead to his demise. He played his hand way too early.
re: Thank you John Edwards#3
Posted: 1/9/08 at 12:11amIf Edwards is looking for a place in Obama's white house or even a VP position, or simply wants to direct his voters another way, I don't see how he could have made a better move.
joey
re: Thank you John Edwards#4
Posted: 1/9/08 at 12:14amSo where would he be if there is no Obama's white house?
re: Thank you John Edwards#5
Posted: 1/9/08 at 12:16amThat's the problem with taking positions based on your personal conviction. Sometimes things don't work out for you.
joey
re: Thank you John Edwards#6
Posted: 1/9/08 at 12:18amAgreed.
re: Thank you John Edwards#7
Posted: 1/9/08 at 12:19amHave to disagree with you Ronin. I think it tells the opposite. Personal convictions are great, but there's a time for them and it was a deliberate attempt to try and nail Hillary's coffin. I think after Feb 5 it would have been a better time for those convictions to come into play.
re: Thank you John Edwards#8
Posted: 1/9/08 at 12:21am
I sincerely believe that for the big 3 dems it's all or nothing. Neither brings anything politically to table as a VP running mate.
Edwards couldn't nor can carry NC; there's no guarantee that Obama can still carry IL as a VP candidate and there's no way the party's superdiva will be downgraded to VP (just ain't happenin').
I thought Richardson would make an ideal running mate for either until the neocons picked his foreign policy stances to pieces and he colluded with Clinton against Obama.
Looking at the general election whoever emerges has to pick a governor from a swing state as a running mate. To me, a Obama-Sebelius ticket is a win-win now that Gore-Obama never materialized.
Please review KS Governor Sebelius' bio when you get a chance. She'd make a valuable complement to Obama, but not Clinton.
Clinton would be wise to pick up Richardson but the pairing scares the crap out of me in terms of the general election.
Sorry Edwards supporters but I honestly believe that the Democratic electorate would stay at home if he's the eventual nominee. Hecka guy, just not electable in any scenario.
re: Thank you John Edwards#9
Posted: 1/9/08 at 12:24am
I don't know how Edwards could have avoided choosing a side. It would have seemed dishonest when he and Obama are both running campaigns of hope and change to be brought by fresh, sort of green senators. The media (and anyone watching, I think) was keen to see what side he was really on.
joey
thank you john edwards#10
Posted: 1/9/08 at 12:30am
jav, the democratic electorate is not going to stay at home no matter who their nominee ends up being after 8 years of dubya.
and i disagree with your characterization of edwards. the fact is that a great many of the net roots and the grass roots love edwards precisely because of his pugnacious attitude. he's the fighter they want. he's the guy who's going to take it to the "man" for them whether that man is big oil or big medicine or big tobacco or big paulie. an edwards campaign would have no shortage of support on the democratic side. at all. plus as a link i posted in another thread shows, he's the best of all the democrats in the head-to-heads with the gop.
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thank you john edwards#11
Posted: 1/9/08 at 12:33amI truly believe the reason the Edwards campaign hasn't picked up major traction lies in the fact that the media has portrayed it as an Obama-Clinton smackdown from the beginning.
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thank you john edwards#12
Posted: 1/9/08 at 12:42amI believe the reason the Edwards campaign hasn't picked up major traction lies in the fact that he comes across as a pandering, insincere politician whose actions belie his words.
thank you john edwards#13
Posted: 1/9/08 at 12:48am
Papa,
I peeped the link but remind you that he didn't win carry any of the deep south states for team Kerry/Edwards. Furthermore he was the one who deposed Monica Lewinsky during the Clinton impeachment trial in the Senate and for that took a hit from many liberals right, wrong or otherwise.
His latest stunt, taking a dig at the party's superdiva in public, has put him in even more hot water with the establishment. I just don't see how he could go all the way to the White House but don't claim the gift of prophesy.
Who is the ideal running mate for Edwards?
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