The Advocate "What Is Gay Now?" Survey Results- Page 2
The Advocate "What Is Gay Now?" Survey Results
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#25
Posted: 6/14/06 at 5:07pm
Here's the most recent Massachusetts marriage stats, gay, straight, and lesbian.
I am not good enough with math off the top of my head to see if that ratio of lesbian to gay marriages is 80%, though.
This is from Joe.My.God's blog, by the way.
Mass. Marriages from Joe My God
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#26
Posted: 6/14/06 at 5:08pm
But, where is OUR lesbian like term.
There must be some greek isle we can adopt as our identity!
(nite kids) 
"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#27
Posted: 6/14/06 at 5:08pm
It's always been my estimation that people who don't want a homosexual label on them, Calvin, are uncomfortable with being perceived as such by society at large.
Call me what you want as long as you mean it with a modicum of respect.
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#28
Posted: 6/14/06 at 5:10pmWhen I worked for a gay publication, I would get the most ridiculous alphabet soup press releases about the LGBTQIR community. I never figured out what the "R" stood for.
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#29
Posted: 6/14/06 at 5:11pm
Doodle---Mykonosian?
Too hard to spell or pronounce.
Namo---nicely put.
Calvin---The "R" stood for "Retarded." It's SO PC!!
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re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#30
Posted: 6/14/06 at 5:13pmHow about just Myks? That seems to lack enough vowels to be properly rage-against-the-machinesque.
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#31
Posted: 6/14/06 at 5:17pm
Except a "Mick" (sp?) is a derogatory term for the Scots. (as in McDougal, McDuff, McDonald, etc.)
Probably not a good idea.
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re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#32
Posted: 6/14/06 at 5:19pmNo, no -- the i is long. Then we can have the Myks on bikes in the next pride parade. Take that, Lea DeLaria!
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#33
Posted: 6/14/06 at 5:20pm
I personally prefer the term swisher.
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#34
Posted: 6/14/06 at 5:28pm
gender queer refers to someone who does not want to identify as male or female. it is under the umbrella of transgender.
referring to the survey, I find that too many gays are not friendly to those who are trans. I find that very sad.
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#35
Posted: 6/14/06 at 5:29pm
But the Greek island isn't Mike-onos. It's Meek-onos.
(or Mick-onos, if you're from the Midwest like me and never say anything right)
I don't think I want to be known as a "Meek" or a "Mick."
How 'bout Big-Fat-Fairies?
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re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#36
Posted: 6/14/06 at 5:30pm
I've never met a person who is or identifies as gender queer but, man, that intrigues me. What I find most interesting is how large the umbrella has become. Also, the meaning of SO many of the words are minimally different. For example, what IS the main difference of identifying as gay/lesbian or as queer? Now, someone who identifies as transgender might ALSO identify as one of those terms as well or even the gender neutral "gender queer."
Sometimes, I think we've made it quite complicated for ourselves. Then again, we've been placed in a grouping almost solely designated by our sexuality.
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#37
Posted: 6/14/06 at 5:37pm
"Sometimes, I think we've made it quite complicated for ourselves."
That's because there is segregation within the "ranks."
You'll find it in any minority group, unfortunately.
It's there to help educate and elaborate, but usually only confuses the larger issues for the majority.
Do you know how many different "labeled" skin colors their are among African-Americans?
Again, segregation among the ranks.
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re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#38
Posted: 6/14/06 at 5:57pm
well it's very important to note the difference between sexual identity and sexual orientation. a trans man or woman can be gay, straight, or bi.
i'm not certain what queer means when not used to mean gay. perhaps that is how a gender queer lists their sexual orientation seeing how gay man and lesbian would not be appropriate terms.
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#39
Posted: 6/14/06 at 6:51pm
When not used to refer specifically to gay people, "queer" can mean not adhering to present gender roles or binary expectations. That usage comes from academia, that is, Queer Studies. More younger students identify as queer than as gay, seeing the term as more open and less boxed in. A man I know is married to a lesbian, and each has sex with the other, plus same gender partners; they refer to themselves as queer, not gay.
I think the destruction of the binary "gay/straight" is the goal here.
Updated On: 6/14/06 at 06:51 PM
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#40
Posted: 6/14/06 at 7:04pm
Just try explaining any of these details and symantics to the majority in our country or any other.
Good luck. They'll "glass over" and lose interest. Even the compassionate ones.
I can't even follow the layered definitions myself, and find a definitive answer.
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re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#41
Posted: 6/14/06 at 7:10pmand yet tolerance and education is something we should all aspire to.
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#42
Posted: 6/14/06 at 7:12pm
Yes, Best, it can be mighty rough to do that! I teach some Queer Studies stuff, and it is very rough for the students to read. Part of that is because it is derived from French academicians, who are extremely difficult, and who use language in very convoluted ways. Judith Butler is probably the #1 American writing in this genre, and she's no walk in the park.
As it usually does, though, I imagine that things will filter out at the popular level eventually.
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#43
Posted: 6/14/06 at 7:29pmi thought it was most interesting that 44% are in a committed relationship (like myself). that's a LOT of folks being discriminated against because they have no legal rights as a couple.
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#44
Posted: 6/14/06 at 7:34pm
The good news is that it's pretty wonderful that younger Americans have significantly fewer problems with gay marriage than older generations do; I guess things take time, but I actually believe that this will happen. Marriage is, after all, a CIVIL arrangement, and so there is a clear violation of our CIVIL rights here.
Updated On: 6/14/06 at 07:34 PM
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#45
Posted: 6/14/06 at 10:28pm
"Namo---nicely put."
Thank you, b12. It's funny to see what seems to me to be recent history receding into time. And to encounter people who never learned it anywhere.
"I find that too many gays are not friendly to those who are trans. I find that very sad."
Not to mention a certain stripe of gay man who hates women. And, of course, the "gay women" who don't like lesbians. (They tend to be conservative single issue Mary Cheney HRC types.)
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#46
Posted: 6/14/06 at 10:44pm
As a gay black male, I need to clarify the idiotic "down low" issue.
The down low is a blown up non-issue perpetuated by Oprah and other urban media for ratings and money to invoke fear into African American women.
African American women are the number one group of people with AIDS, not the African American (gay) men, so there goes that theory.
I also need to clarify that black men do use the word gay... I identify as gay the same as you. Men on the down low are considered men who hide their sexual desires and have relationships with women.
re: The Advocate 'What Is Gay Now?' Survey Results#47
Posted: 6/14/06 at 10:53pm
"African American women are the number one group of people with AIDS, not the African American (gay) men, so there goes that theory."
Could you clarify what that fact is supposed to prove, or disprove?
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