The Official Raúl E. Esparza "Spread the Love" Thread- Page 394

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 10:36pm

nooooo, he loves you!

[ElphieDefiesGravity]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 10:37pm

*is awed by Raul's superior talent*

[greatdct]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 10:42pm

Oh thanks, Skittles! I was really curious about that. He astounds me.

I just got off the phone with my friend. She was at the theatre tonight. Apparently Raúl's door is covered in purple wrapping paper. Something his secret santa did. Heee! She took a picture for me because she is awesome.

But the mean usher was there and gave her hell.

He loves you, too, Em!

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 10:43pm

hahaha, PURPLE! That's cute.

What did the usher to THIS TIME?

I hope he likes me; not much to like, being that I don't ever say anything useful to him.

[greatdct]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 10:46pm

I think he adores you! You don't bother him or annoy him. I think he respects that. And he waved to you from the car!

I truly do think that he likes us. We haven't ever been too annoying. I think that's why he's always so sweet. I think some people feel like they get the cold shoulder. Maybe that's because he's wary of fans. But I think he likes familiar faces.

Anyway, mean usher pointed and whispered. I KNOW she is only doing that because she knows I'm friends with her. She never used to bother her before that.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 10:47pm

They had secret santas? That is so ridiculously cute. I wonder who he had.

Ew. That usher seriously bugs. I feel bad that the cast and everything is losing their jobs, but not about her.

He doesn't even remember me, so I can't claim to know whether he likes me or not. :/

Updated On: 12/15/05 at 10:47 PM

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 10:49pm

hee, I loved when he waved!

I think he gets that we love him and that we're totally harmless. You can tell when he's just being nice for the sake of PR, but really wants to get the hell out of there. But I think they like familiarity, too. Someone said that they just sort of get used to you, and let their guard down -- like Adam's just gotten used to me being around. Raul has only once half-acknowledged knowing me, other than in body language. But that's cool.

What a b*tch she is! urgh.

[greatdct]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 10:52pm

He's only done it to me once, too! He said hi as he blew off the stage door crowd and got in his car. That was sweet.

I hope he knows I'm harmless. I was worried he might think I'm nuts after the hug. I even told him "I"m not a freak, I promise. I just love your work!"

[greatdct]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 10:56pm

Oh, and Mean Usher (that's her name, now) is crazy. She doesn't want me or my friends there. And she does anything and everything to scare us away, piss us off, or make the cast hate us. Which is just silly. I think she feels like her territory is being invaded. She used to think Raúl was in to her. Maybe she still does.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 10:56pm

aww! What did he say? You can tell my watching, though -- like at Brilliant Mistake when we were watching him do that interview. He really does like you.

Adam's blatantly been like "we've met before!" But he's a goofball. I luff him.

[greatdct]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 10:57pm

I don't remember! And I'm kicking myself for it! I don't remember a lot of that conversation. It was like a dream. So relaxed and it was so easy. No awkward moments, it just flowed. My friend that was there said we looked very comfortable with each other. I know he said something after I told him that. I know that he smiled.

ETA: I think your "relationship" with Adam is adorable. From what I've heard! :) Updated On: 12/15/05 at 10:57 PM

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 10:58pm

aww. He does make it really, really easy.

[greatdct]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 11:01pm

Can you tell I'm on a sugar rush? I'm so chatty.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/15/05 at 11:02pm

mmmmmm. Sugar.

ooh, like the song!

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 9:23am

I was just reading a Brokeback Mountain thread, but I'm afraid to post in it. So I'll put this here, because I think you guys share my view on such issues, and I don't have worry about being clobbered by the "EVERYONE BE OUT NOW AND WE HATE STRAIGHT FEMALES BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING SO SHUT UP!" camp. I'm rarely afraid to post, but I'm not in the mood to be yelled at and told that my opinion is not welcome because I am not a gay man and I therefore don't get it.

Anyway, somebody posted this article about a gay talk show host slamming the notion and the actors, and two of the points where:
(a) If it were really as acceptable as we're saying it is now that a mainstream movie is a gay love story, then we wouldn't *have* to make such a big deal of its existence. So, if being gay were really so acceptable, nobody would make a big deal over Brokeback.
Then, later on, he says:
(b) If the actors were *truly* courageous (he says they're not brave for doing the love scene because they got paid -- and who wouldn't have fake gay sex for a big paycheck?) then they wouldn't go on the record in the press diminishing the fact that the cowboys are gay.

And I just... don't get that. It's like that quote I posted from The Normal Heart a while ago, where Ned yells at Mickey, because he thinks sex is the only thing that should define gay men -- the whole bit about the political agenda being promiscuity. It seems contradictory to me to say that in a perfect, accepting world, Brokeback wouldn't need to be a big deal -- doesn't that mean that if the world were more accepting, we should *want* the sexuality of these characters to be downplayed? If it weren't such an issue, you wouldn't have to go around being like "they're gay, they're gay, they're gay!!" In a lot of the interviews, Heath and Jake talk about how they're just in love with each other, not in love with each other *because* they're both men, which I think is great -- and on the right path, because they're making sure that the focus is on that they're in love, not on what sex they are. Isn't that -- downplay of their sexuality -- heading on the way to allowing people to accept it? I don't understand. You can't have your cake and eat it too -- it doesn't make sense to make a big to-do about their sexuality and and sure that everyone knows how monumental it is for a mainstream film to be about a gay love story, and also want to diminish it so that it's "normal."

Anyway, I just wanted to hide this here.

Updated On: 12/16/05 at 09:23 AM

[greatdct]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 2:26pm

I absolutely agree with you! I have been reading all of those threads about the movie and people's reactions to it just because I'm so interested. It's just something I feel so strongly about.

But I think that what you are saying makes perfect sense. It is contradictory. I don't think they know what they want.

"I'm rarely afraid to post, but I'm not in the mood to be yelled at and told that my opinion is not welcome because I am not a gay man and I therefore don't get it"

It's funny, but that's exactly why I never posted in those threads either. I've just been reading them.

Okay, I *literally* just woke up. I was up all night packing. So, my apologies if this sounds like a five year old typed it! :)

I can't wait to see that movie, though!

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 3:03pm

I'm going to the movies tonight, but I think I'm going to see Rent one more time. If I can find someone who wants to go with me, I think I'll see Brokeback on Sunday.

What's strangest to me about the reactions to the movie is that they're so, so, so extreme. One person says it's about LOVE more than it is about being gay -- these two guys love each other, regardless of who's what. And people come back and say that that's "wrong," and that it's absolutely about being gay. I feel like minds need to be made up -- whether they all want to be branded which can lead to negativity, or whether it should be considered "normal" and therefore okay with which to proceed as an individual so chooses. I believe the movie is about love that just so happens to be between two men. I'm afraid of being told that's wrong, and furthermore, that my extrapolations *of* that theme are wrong.

I posted once in said thread, about something a little bit different, but I'm backing out again. Best not to play with fire, even though I disagree with a lot of what's said. I read some of this stuff and go "are you NUTS?" but it's better just to leave it be.

[greatdct]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 6:07pm

You'll have to tell me how it is! I probably won't see it until the end of this month when I'm in the city.

I don't know why I feel so strongly about these things. But I agree with you in not wanting to get in the middle of it.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 6:09pm

Because people you care about are trapped in it.

I was just listening to Me Ole Bamboo, and it made me smile a lot!

[BSoBW2]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 6:12pm

Something I just realized by this thread title.

In CARRIE, the word "flop" was used.

In IN MY LIFE, the word "doomed" was used a lot.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 6:14pm

Nice job.

[greatdct]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 6:22pm

That's so weird to think about, though. I mean, it's crazy how much I do care about him and want the best for him. When, we aren't friends or anything.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 6:25pm

That's okay. I think as long as you realize your limitations and that you aren't friends, it's still fine to care very much about them.

[greatdct]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 6:31pm

I think you're right.

These types of "relationships" are so strange and unique.

[Shiksa Goddess2]

Posted: 12/16/05 at 6:31pm

I think it's about time I join this board. I heart Raul, but I have been all over the Adam/Anthony boards because of the Rent movie. It is time to explore the rest of BWW!