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The Tolerance Trap

Posted: 5/19/14 at 11:19am

Oh I recall the crap I got from BWW's Worst Troll Ever when I said I had no use for "tolerance".

"If there is nothing problematic about something—say, homosexuality—then there is really nothing to tolerate. We don’t speak of tolerating great sex or a good book or a sunshine-filled day."

Queer freedom and the tolerance trap

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Updated On: 5/19/14 at 11:19 AM

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 12:40pm

Coincidentally, Namo, I saw a great post on Facebook on Friday by a friend of yours. He was responding to a lament about the notion of "having compassion for our LGBTQ brothers and sisters". Friend brought up the Tolerance Trap. I "liked" it. I like him, too.

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 12:43pm

Well now that BWW's Worst Troll Ever goes by Sutton Ross

I'm still not convinced that they are the same.

"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 12:58pm

I loved that whole piece. So much food for thought.

Tolerance is not just a low bar; it actively undercuts robust integration and social belonging by allowing the warp and woof of anti-gay animus to go unchallenged. Tolerance allows us to celebrate (hysterically) the coming out of macho professional athletes as a triumphant sign of liberation rather than a sad commentary on the persistence of the closet and the hold of masculinist ideals. Tolerance allows religious "objections" to queer lives to remain in place, even as it claims that a civilized society leaves its homos alone. Tolerance pushes for marriage equality and simultaneously assures anxious allies that it won’t change their marriages or their lives.

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 1:21pm

"I saw a great post on Facebook on Friday by a friend of yours. "

Thank you. I appreciate the kind words.

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 1:45pm

It certainty wasn't you.

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 2:09pm

Inquiring minds need to know:

Are Headband and Namo REALLY friends on Facebook...or that just a figleaf of someone's imagination?

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 2:18pm

We are REALLY friends - in the real world and the virtual world. Hard to believe, I know.

It was only a few days ago he suggested that Fox News would be adopting "I Don't Understand The Poor" as its official theme song. I think that's a fabulous, and hysterical, idea.

Updated On: 5/19/14 at 02:18 PM

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 2:28pm

Christ, you're the worst.

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 2:36pm

It's a shame that yet another thread which could have sparked profound and challenging discussion has been derailed.

Thanks for the link, Namo. I'm one of those people the author describes as being delighted about the strides we have made in the past 8 years. But she has challenged my perception and made me re-think my stance on so many things.

I will definitely be looking inward and redefining my barometer for success.

....but the world goes 'round

Updated On: 5/19/14 at 02:36 PM

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 2:39pm

It keeps saying it's going away and then never leaves.

It's like a rash.

"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> “I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>> -whatever2

#12

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 3:25pm

I think of myself as having a *good* sense of humor.

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#13

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 3:29pm

It was an interesting article. I don't think it's wrong to celebrate victories large and small along the way. As long as the celebration doesn't lead to complacency I think it's healthy.

Minor advances, like the first openly gay NFL player, are REALLY big deals in some arenas, and the progress that will be made changing attitudes shouldn't be trivialized. I have religiously watched Around the Horn and Pardon the Interruption for years, and I never thought I'd ever hear them talk about gay rights on those programs in a million years. In the long history of the gay movement this act might receive little attention, but big change comes from a lot of little change.

Marie: Don't be in such a hurry about that pretty little chippy in Frisco. Tony: Eh, she's a no chip!

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 5:11pm

It was only a few days ago he suggested that Fox News would be adopting "I Don't Understand The Poor" as its official theme song.

In which world did he say that? On BWW, on FB or in the real world?

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 6:02pm

I assure you PJ, there is no world in which I would be friends with the likes of an LH. He's bluffing.

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 6:23pm

It was on Facebook, PJ.

I have no reason to "bluff"... What would be the point of that? I've had the pleasure of seeing your infamous performance in a local drag show (from early or mid 2000s?). I believe you only have that evidence on DVD or VHS, and you rarely show it. If that's not proof enough I really don't know what it is...

And yes, folks. This is a serious post and the video of FN performing a cabaret type song -- cannot remember what the song was -- in a drag show does exist!!! You showed it to me once, FN.

Whatever. You can stay in denial. Maybe you should pick your friends more carefully if you really feel none of them could ever be the horrible, wretched Liza's Headband. Heaven forbid!

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 6:33pm

Effie, you goin' crazy.

#18

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 6:33pm

What would be the point of it? I would assume you're trying to freak me out but you're not because nothing you're saying is true. No. Thing.

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 6:38pm

You're either friends on Facebook or you're not. Especially if you're friends in real life as well.

Unless there's a third possibility...

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 6:40pm

I am betting it is the third possibility!

Those Blocked: SueStorm. N2N Nate. Good riddence to stupid! Rad-Z, shill begone!

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 6:45pm

Oh there are many possibilities. LH's bad psychic impersonation is worth the price of admission though: "There's a performance of some sort of a song of some kind and it was preserved on some media and it has rarely been seen. So you see, I know you in real life as these factual details prove!" But no, LH. If any of it were true I would obviously know exactly who you are. But you're bluffing.

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 7:11pm

And you are sharing this on a public message board because.... Please Liza, I forgot the reason?

Those Blocked: SueStorm. N2N Nate. Good riddence to stupid! Rad-Z, shill begone!

#23

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 7:17pm

Namo, did a none night stand go all Glen Close on yo' butt and do you have a pet rabbit?

Those Blocked: SueStorm. N2N Nate. Good riddence to stupid! Rad-Z, shill begone!

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 7:25pm

I love bunnies!

I realize that the times I went against my instincts and treated LH as if he weren't the troll he has clearly revealed himself to be was a different sort of tolerance trap. But a trap nonetheless.

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Updated On: 5/19/14 at 07:25 PM

#25

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Posted: 5/19/14 at 7:34pm

Will reread the article when I get home. It hit and many many good points! Will take some time to digest without ringing phones.

Those Blocked: SueStorm. N2N Nate. Good riddence to stupid! Rad-Z, shill begone!

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