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'The Wolf of Wall Street' directed by Martin Scorsese

Dallas Buyers Club isn't accurate to real life. The guy was openly bisexual, not straight. But I think his character arc makes the movie more interesting. (Plus Hollywood has no idea how to depict male bisexuals.)

Much of Lee Daniels' The Butler was fabricated as well.

Some of the behavior *is* shocking, but there's a lot we've seen before.




"The gods who nurse this universe think little of mortals' cares. They sit in crowds on exclusive clouds and laugh at our love affairs. I might have had a real romance if they'd given me a chance. I loved him, but he didn't love me. I wanted him, but he didn't want me. Then the gods had a spree and indulged in another whim. Now he loves me, but I don't love him." - Cole Porter

Updated On: 1/13/14 at 06:42 PM

#52

'The Wolf of Wall Street' directed by Martin Scorsese

I'd have been more shocked if the movie hadn't been so invested in protecting the male actors against the rampant objectification of the female bodies (and no, I don't buy the "the film does that because that's the culture it's depicting," you can still do things that curb some of that). I'm with Mr.Midwest in that I think Scorsese thinks we are more shocked than we are; then again, I do think most of America is shocked by this sort of thing.
I didn't mind that the character of Jordan doesn't change, I think that's how a lot of people are, they don't grow or learn from their actions, they see how much they can get away with over and over again. I thought Scorsese did a pretty good job representing that. And yet, there was a sort of ickiness I felt throughout the whole thing in terms of how much I felt Scorsese found these guys sort of cool and awesome as he was criticizing them. Maybe that's the point, I guess, but there wasn't much in way of a critique that I thought audiences would understand. Now, is it Scorsese's job to make an audience understand what he is trying to do? Not necessarily.
I liked the movie (certainly liked it much more than the glorified Lifetime movie-of-the-week DALLAS BUYERS CLUB with its martyrized drag queen and Matthew McConaughey practically begging the audience for an Oscar--sorry, Mr.Midwest, you know I love you). I still think Scorsese needs to be told "no" once in a while, he's just so full of himself as a director. There is no reason the movie, as it stands, needed to be 3 hours long, especially with how much he leaves unexplored. The rumor is that the 5 hour version of the movie was a masterpiece with Thelma Schoonmaker actually saying she thought that version was more complex and precise about its take on what was going on, would actually love to see that version.
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
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'The Wolf of Wall Street' directed by Martin Scorsese

Well never see that 4+ hour version. Scorsese's reached the point where he will keep the film locked. Deleted scenes on the BluRay, sure, but never put back into the film recut. Not sure he has done that since New York, New York. As much as I would be interested to see that version as well- especially if those scenes were done to avoid the NC-17 rating- it will likely not suffice.
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'The Wolf of Wall Street' directed by Martin Scorsese

Strummergirl, I don't believe the cuts were made to satisfy the NC-17 rating. According to Thelma Schoonmaker, a 5 hour film was simply "not marketable," and she's right. I'll look up the great interview she gave to the guys on InContention and link later.
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"

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