The death of Sandra Bland
The death of Sandra Bland
Borstalboy
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/9/04
#1The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/16/15 at 5:23pm
But why do the coloreds not trust cops?
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Borstalboy
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/9/04
#2The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/16/15 at 5:26pm
The Sheriff on the case kicked out of job in 2008 for racism, brutality
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LarryD2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/1/14
#3The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/16/15 at 7:21pm
This whole story is a red flag factory. Who gets stopped for failing to signal? (A woman of color with out-of-state plates in a racist town, of course). Who spends three days in jail for this? Who "commits suicide" on the morning they're supposedly going to be released?
The video is disturbing and seemingly contradicts the narrative the police are selling. I hope that this gets the investigation it deserves, because something is so obviously not right here.
Borstalboy
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/9/04
#4The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/22/15 at 5:05pm
The full police dashcam video. Why must she get out of the car? Put out her cigarette?
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Liza's Headband
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
#5The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/22/15 at 5:19pm
Larry. This is a truly heinous incident and I smell cover-up, racism, corruption and brutality all the way... But those of us saying so would benefit from sticking to the facts. She was not arrested because of failing to use a signal while changing lanes. She was arrested for what they considered "resisting arrest" and "assault on a law enforcement officer." Again, facts are crucial if we are to keep the number of doubters down.
TheatreDiva90016
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/04
#6The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/22/15 at 7:32pm
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henrikegerman
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/29/05
#7The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/22/15 at 8:44pm
"She was arrested for what they considered "resisting arrest" and "assault on a law enforcement officer." Again, facts are crucial if we are to keep the number of doubters down."
And how exactly did she do any of those things based on the dash cam video which shows her being stopped for a failure to turn and clearly abused by the police?
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#8The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/22/15 at 8:55pm
Please keep in mind that the Headband wanted everyone who felt any solidarity with #BlackLivesMatter to denounce the manipulated video that made it appear that crowds were chanting they wanted dead cops. In fact, he made sure to grind any threads about this country's serious race problem to a halt over that issue.
So don't try to appease his "concerns," he will never be satisfied.
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LarryD2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/1/14
#9The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/23/15 at 7:51am
The dash-cam video should be damning, but I'm sure the folks who believe that law enforcement is never wrong will turn on their spin machine any minute now. Bland never should have been taken out of her car or arrested in the first place.
Of course, police are actually not required to inform you as to why you are being placed under arrest during the arrest. The Supreme Court established this with Devenpeck v. Alford (2004):
“While it is assuredly good police practice to inform a person of the reason for his arrest at the time he is taken into custody, we have never held that to be constitutionally required.”
The officer could have placed Sandra Bland under arrest for any reason he saw fit and not informed her of the reason why he was arresting her. "Resisting arrest" and "assault on a public servant" sound better than "A black woman was mouthing off to me and I didn't like it."
#10The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/23/15 at 8:46am
Yes the cop handled the situation poorly. She was being quite sassy. Most people would have said oh I did not realize officer, I am so sorry...but never the less he should have ignored her and just given her a warning and then been on his merry way...I mean he knew the camera and audio were on...his actions make no sense what so ever....
LarryD2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/1/14
#11The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/23/15 at 8:51am
He knew what he was doing. After he got her out of the car, he moved her out of the camera's view. It's easy to create a narrative when the camera can't record what you're doing physically, even if there is audio.
Being sassy with a police officer isn't a crime, and asking questions does not equal non-compliance. Police are supposedly trained to react to situations with calm and to attempt to de-escalate, although we see time and again examples of officers using excessive force as their first line of defense.
Updated On: 7/23/15 at 08:51 AM
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#12The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/23/15 at 9:08am
What the insightful writer Sarah Schulman had to say on the Facebook about the dashboard video:
Everything that is wrong in our world is right here: The Most Base and Brutal Racism, Escalation, Over-Stating Harm, Conflating Conflict With Abuse, Construing Resistance as Abuse, Supremacy Ideology Masquerading As Reality. The Provincial Bully Who Cannot Be Self-Critical, Bullies Who Can't Tolerate Righteous Opposition. Falsely Invoking the Law to Cover Up One's Own Wrong-Doing, Accusations As Smokescreens. It Is All PAINFULLY and BLATANTLY Right Here.
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LarryD2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/1/14
#15The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/23/15 at 10:57am
3 This country is FULL of Americans who actively exercise their rights when given unlawful, unclear orders by police.
4 Refusing to roll down windows, present ID, hand over assault rifles, answer ANY questions, etc.
5 THEY are lauded as heroes; patriots. Message boards swell w/ Police being ridiculed & laughed at by this Patriot-Class of Americans.
6 Without fail, when select Americans excercise their rights, message boards FILL w praise for the resisting citizen & mockery of police.
8 A select segment of Americans are granted the privilege of being able to resist said tyranny, scream at it, punch, shove or elude it.
9 For membership consideration, this club has ONE requirement: the citizen(s) resisting police/the law/status quo must be white.
10 Every time the story involves a black citizen, doing far less, presumed guilt BEGINS as their's to shed. But one cannot shed blackness.
11 Blackness turns "awesome!" or "badass!" to "thug" "n*" faster than a speeding bullet. Whiteness turns villain to hero in a flash.
#16The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/23/15 at 1:46pm
The latest theory is that she was already dead when they took the mug shot of her.
If that is the case, all hell will break loose.
Has anyone determined why there was a plastic garbage bag in her cell anyway?
#17The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/23/15 at 2:21pm
Yes I heard that as well Pal Joey. Evidence is in the mug shot it's self.
1) ther braids which should be hanging down are hanging back like she is on her back.
2) She is already in her orange jump suit. Everyone's mug shot is taken as soon as they enter custody.
3) the way her jumpsuit drapes, suggests she is laying down.
4) The left side of her face droops, which is usually happens when one dies of Asxphyxiation.
5)The muscles on her face are pulled back toward "the wall" (read floor).
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FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#19The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/23/15 at 4:52pm
Other than item#2, I can't really make out all that detail from the mug shot. Unfortunately, I have seen my share of dead people and the eyes and face are nothing like that mug shot. And all the side-by-side comparisons are of photos of her with makeup, smiling, from God-knows-when with smaller, shorter braids. I do think there are a lot of questions that need answering, but I don't take much stock in this particular conspiracy theory.
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#20The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/23/15 at 5:15pm
No. And surely they wouldn't pretend she was alive for three days--particularly since we know there are security cameras outside her cell.
TheatreDiva90016
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/04
#21The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/23/15 at 5:16pm
Here's that link to the theory that she was already dead when they took her mug shot.
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#22The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/23/15 at 5:25pm
What about the plastic garbage bag? How did that get into her cell?
#23The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/23/15 at 6:01pm
There is a lot that is very shady about this woman's death.
Besides, wasn't she on her way to a job interview? Wouldn't she have had make-up on?
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Updated On: 7/23/15 at 06:01 PM
LarryD2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/1/14
#24The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/23/15 at 6:13pm
She already had the job. She was supposed to start work the week she died. She was out running errands when she was stopped.
Obviously there's a lot here that isn't right, but the theory that she's dead in her mug shot doesn't pass the smell test with me.
#25The death of Sandra Bland
Posted: 7/23/15 at 8:04pm
"What about the plastic garbage bag? How did that get into her cell?"
I find this to be the most pressing question they haven't answered yet.
Also very curious why her mug shot was taken in a prison jumper.
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