Those missing months in the National Guard — Page 2

Roxy...

Maybe no one answers you because you have nothing relevant to say. You continue to answer any comment about the Bush administration with something about Clinton. You say "it's scary they might get power". Well...like someone else said, the last time I checked the Clintons were not running for office. And you continue to forget, that many of us who currently have problems with Bush also had problems with Clinton. Maybe next time you can present an opposing viewpoint about Bush instead of dragging Clinton into the mix everytime...that's so 4 years ago.

The GOP is really worried and are fighting back with a vengence. From Salon.com (2/13/04):

"Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie criticized Democrats on Thursday for questioning President Bush's military service, calling it "the dirtiest campaign in modern presidential politics." and "Gillespie also called Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe the "John Wilkes Booth of presidential character assassination" for accusing Bush of skirting his duties with the National Guard."

http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2004/02/13/dirty/index.html

Meanwhile, Matt Drudge is at it again, hoping for a lewinski-esque replay involving Kerry (also from today's Salon):

"Vague and unsourced but hyped to the maximum by Drudge, the brief item sounded disturbingly familiar. The Internet gossip accused John Kerry of "recent alleged infidelity" with "a woman who recently fled the country," adding that a "close friend of the woman recently approached a reporter with fantastic stories." The same item ran an "off the record" comment attributed to retired Gen. Wesley Clark, who was quoted as saying, "Kerry will implode over an intern issue." Major news organizations from ABC News to the Associated Press, warned Drudge, were all over the story. By evening, however, no major news organization had run with it, though many were chasing it."

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/02/13/drudge/index.html

It's gonna get ugly, folks. But we already knew that.

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Just revivin' the thread...

Ya know, papa, what I really want is to be 18 again when all the answers seemed so clear cut to me...before I realized all the sleaze that happens behind the scenes. I want to be CLEAN FOR GENE, dammit.

I agree, though... I'd much rather see Edwards vs Bush. (Said as a democrat, barely, just sneaking in from the left....)

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Updated On: 2/13/04 at 10:21 AM

Sorry, Roxy, I think many of us would agree: we've already had the stool sample.

And no, plenty of people are not laughing. Anyone else read the Bob Herbert piece in the Times today? He nailed why all of this will not go away. One need not strain to plumb relevance from the Bush position on the ... applicability ... of military training during one's college years. Bush was a vocal hawk during 'Nam -- yes, he was in gung ho for the war he got Daddy to keep him out of. The parrallels between the "stands" he took in his youth and his "moral" leadership today are there to be observed. Or as someone pointed out in a Times letter, why didn't we get to use his pilot skills 30 years ago, when we needed them in Southeast Asia? He finally used them, in the photo op of a lifetime, when he declared Iraq over. (That, Roxy, had the world laughing more than his dental records.)

No, what goes 'round, comes around. "Dirty" politics? They often follow -- or run concurrent to -- a dirty little war.

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Updated On: 2/13/04 at 07:36 PM

Not voting. There's a solution for you. I may never vote for a winner, but at least I vote. Always. Voting gives me the right to bitch about things if they don't go well. I have no interest in hearing about how screwed up things are from someone who hasn't bothered to participate. Roxy, I'd rather see you vote for Bush than not vote at all.

And by the way, I don't hate Bush but I DO hate the job he is doing. And I have no respect for him...but that's really more his fault than mine. He's a man of average intelligence (nothing more) who didn't break a sweat in college and isn't even embarassed about his C average. It wouldn't be so frightening, except that again and again, he's shown that he fails to grasp the complexities of world history, geography, and politics. The records documenting the 'rough patches' in his life (the national guard business, drunk driving charges) are either incomplete or just plain can't be found. Gee, wonder how that happens? And you tell me he'd be president without daddy's political connections and pull. (So lets not really spend much time worrying about Kerry's family connections, okay?) And to top it off, he's bought into his image of himself as a cowboy and frankly, he's more of a loose cannon than a sharp shooter.

There's a lot at stake here. If you think not having George in the White House will precipitate Armageddon, then by all means support him. I happen to believe the opposite, so I plan to do my best to send him packin' back to the ranch, ASAP. Choosing to do nothing, doesn't let you off the hook.

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Updated On: 2/13/04 at 11:31 PM

i'd argue that point but i seem to have lost my will to argue...oh no it's the ambivalence!! or the bass ale.

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scratch what?!@?

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ooops. my bad. forget that last remark. let's home phantom2 is sleeping...

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It's just so darned sweet when you guys interrupt an otherwise interesting thread discussion for some sustained foreplay. Maybe you should get a room.

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