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#3526

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I hope your mom reads it, Em. I already told my mom that she has to. Hehe.

Just let me add that I ABSOLUTELY believe that the overall themes of both Rent and Without You FAR outweigh any of the minor themes and situations featured in them.
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#3527

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My mother's latest is that she wants to meet Anthony if I ask him to dance on the tables at the Life Cafe. *facepalm*
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#3528

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hahaha.. I'd love to see that one.
#3529

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I just want to say that I wholeheartedly agree with you, Em and secondstar. As my mom and I are now in the porcess of losing her mother (my grandmother) in a very slow manner, I would actually like her to read it as well, but I have the same fears as Em. Nevertheless, this book has helped me "prepare" a bit for my own impending loss. Which is something I never thought I would be able to do.
On the matter of the sexual situations in the book, I agree that it could be a very useful tool for parents to start a dialogue with their children. It's certainly a much more responsible representation than most of the others in the media today.
#3530

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I think, personally, what I took most from it has to do with the working, living, breathing relationship between mother and child. My mom and I don't often get along perfectly, but this brought a lot to front for me, about relating with my mom, etc.
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#3531

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Em: hehe... Moms are silly (but wonderful, of course).

Katy: I'm so sorry to hear that about your grandmother, but I'm glad that Without You has been able to help you (as much as it can, anyway).
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#3532

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It did that for me, too, Em. I am currently in my first year of college, and I've been so caught up in everything lately that the line of communication between myself and my mother has been greatly reduced. Reading this book prompted me to just call her out of the blue to tell her how much I miss her, and she was so happy to hear it, I felt bad for not doing it sooner.
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#3533

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Hi all! I thought I'd introduce myself. My lurking has ended since I'm now caught up on the conversation.
Continue on....
#3534

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Hi and welcome, jk! *waves* Love the avatar.

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Updated On: 2/9/06 at 12:29 PM

#3535

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oh my gosh. EUREKA!!

Hi.
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#3536

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Hello, justkidding. Welcome out of lurkdom! I just recently made the jump myself.
#3537

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That aspect of the book was important to me, as well. My mom and I have always been close, but we do differ quite a bit on spiritual, political and social issues. And since we're both so fiery and opinionated, it can cause friction. I happened to finish this book the day my mom was coming to visit me and it definitely changed my attitudes and the way I approached the visit. We had a wonderful time that I will never ever forget.

And thank you, secondstar. These last few years have definitely been very difficult for us.
#3538

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Welcome all who are new!!!!

I didn't realize that the book, had those things in it, I can't wait to read it!
#3539

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Hi, justkidding.

Welcome to the craziness!
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#3540

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Personally, I don't think children should really be censored in what they read, or watch on TV or the music they listen to. Part of it is a selfish reason. I loathed when my parents told me they didn't think something was appropriate for me and went out of my way to defy them. When my parents wouldn't let me see Good Will Hunting because of the language, I started cursing like a trucker in front of them just to get the point across that there was nothing in the movie that I didn't already know. I was fiercely independent from a young age, so when my parents did anything to set limits on what I wanted to know more about, I went behind their back. Not that I was necessarily bad, but when your parents think that just watching Will and Grace is enough to send you to hell, much of it was more out of curiosity and developing my own worldview that wasn't the same as the narrow-minded one of my parents'.

I'd like to believe that children should be able to maintain their innocence for as long as possible, but that's an impossibility in today's world. As long as the children themselves seek out these things on their own, I think the parents shouldn't be blamed or accused of not "protecting" them. It's better that kids learn about more mature subjects on their own terms, as opposed to this information being forced onto them before they'll understand it, like an older friend telling them at the age of 5 what a condom is used for (thank you, Curtis ).

I mean, even I raised an eyebrow when a girl about 7 years old asked Antonique Smith for her autograph at the stagedoor and her mom said Mimi was her favorite character and she knows all the words to the songs. But even though the girl enjoys it and her parents are comfortable with it, that doesn't mean she's going to turn out morally-corrupt just because she sings "Mucho masturbation" along with her CD (she probably doesn't even understand what that means- kind of like kids thinking LMNOP is one letter from the alphabet song). Learning about these things doesn't meant you're on the pathway to delinquency or it's too advanced for you to understand. I think what effects you is inherently based on your maturity level. If you aren't emotionally ready for it, it'll just go over your head. If you are at a level where you can understand it, then maybe you'll be a bit weirded out at first, but in the long run, you have to learn about it eventually. It's better to be slightly alarmed reading one scene in a book than the giant emotional shock it will be when they're finally jolted out of their parents' protective sphere of influence.

Besides, growing up in a post-Lewinsky world, 11 year olds are definitely aware of what blow jobs are already.

Erm, sorry so long, this is just an issue that I have a lot of personal feelings on.
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Updated On: 2/9/06 at 12:53 PM

#3541

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A little decoration in honor of justkidding coming out of lurkdom (Okay, so I just like posting pictures of him). *giggle*


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#3542

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I agree that children should be allowed to develop their own ideas about certain issues, skittles. I guess I'm just thinking in terms of my own parents, who allowed me the freedom to explore mature issues when I wanted to, but also felt compelled to share in my learning experiences and guide me through them.
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#3543

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I think that's the difference, and what most kids really need, is guidance. parents need to be able to get over their own squirminess on these things and talk to their kids. It seems odd to me that parents seem upset at what their kids are learning but reluctant to talk to them about it.
#3544

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Thanks everyone! In response to Anthony's book: I got the b4 it came out b/c i'm a freak like that with pre-ordering. The first half made laugh and I tried to picture as best as I could what he was experiencing. The second half was so upsetting I cried until I got to the point where I set the book on my desk and pretended it wasn't there for a day. But overall it was very in depth and heartfelt. I now have most of the people I've ever encountered in my entire life dying to read it.

I've become the book's Kansas representative!
#3545

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Hooray for recruiting more readers! Hehe.

I had the same experience, where I was just so wrecked by it that I had to put the book down for awhile and take a break. I finally went back and finished (HOORAY), and I'm definitely going to start re-reading sometime soon.

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Updated On: 2/9/06 at 01:10 PM

#3546

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My only issue with the book, and it isn't even really in issue, is that some parts were a little bit....too personal. Even though AR had wrote them in his book I felt like I was being invasive as though it were his diary. I'm pretty sure that most of you know which parts I'm talking about.!:Signing Question
#3547

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I understand exactly what you mean... I didn't take issue with them or anything like that, but there were certain parts where I did feel kind of intrusive, as if I didn't deserve to share in the knowledge of those experiences. I am definitely grateful that he was willing to be so open in including them in the book, though.

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Updated On: 2/9/06 at 01:16 PM

#3548

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Me too. I'm really happy that even his random everyday life was interesting.

My book probably would suck. I'd end up writing 3 chapters on different ways i like to cook eggs or something!
#3549

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Skittles, I feel very much the same way you do, which is why I try and not shelter my kids from too much. I wasn't sheltered too much as a child and I feel I turned out okay. Better than okay in most instances. I really avoided a lot of the common teenage pitfalls, mainly because I didn't feel the need to rebel against anything. When my mom gave me a curfew, I broke it all time. Once she stopped telling me what time to be home, I came home early. I don't know why. It just seems to be a natural tendency for kids to do the opposite of what their parents tell them.

Plus, I have seen a lot of sheltered kids and it downright scares me. I'd rather talk to my kids about too much than not enough. Some of the lyrics in Rent are obviously tricky to explain to a young child, but my kids pretty much accept that they just shouldn't say certain things and that I'll explain it to them when they're old enough. They're also really good at knowing what material is okay to take on the bus or to share with other kids. It's pretty much Disney and KidzBop on the bus and w/friends, but Rent at home with me.
#3550

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Really well said, skittles. I agree. Kids should be able to find out what they want on their own time.
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