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What has children's television come to?

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#25re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 10/28/06 at 5:10pm

Yeah, totally owned this book:

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Posted: 10/28/06 at 5:12pm

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Posted: 10/28/06 at 8:08pm

Orange, I mentioned what you said to someone and they informed me that "white" is sometimes used to mean non-hispanic. Sorry about being sarcastic.

I have a diverse hispanic backround and some of my relatives are white so I jumped the gun.

I apologize once again.

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#28re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 10/28/06 at 8:25pm

oh, man, i wanna read that MR HOOPER book!!!!

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circusliz
#29re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 10/30/06 at 4:07pm

I'm not defending Dora or Blue's Clues or any of the other children's shows out there, but just FYI...

Children's shows nowadays are based on careful and cutting edge research regarding early childhood development. This was not always the case -- Sesame Street was one of the first to do it (in the 80's I believe) but it has only been recently that many children's programmes are developed through social research.

And for those of you who miss the "good old days" watch Between the Lions on PBS. It's a new show, but done in a style similar to Eureeka's Castle.


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#30re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 10/30/06 at 4:33pm

I had forgotten about 3-2-1 Contact! I loved that show!

Another wonderful golden oldie was the bilingual show Villa Alegre. Does anyone remember that? I still have my record album of the show and I can still recall the theme song.

Ah, good times...


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#31re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 10/30/06 at 4:44pm

Obviously you weren't around in the 1970s to view "Wonderama" or its spinoff "Kids Are People, Too".

So let me sing a few bars of one of the Wonderama songs:

Oh have you heard any good news, today, today
I want to hear what you have to say
Wait 'til I get to the count of three
And tell me all the good news you have for me
Uh one, two three...

Then the host, Bob McAllister, would stick the microphone up in some stupid kid's face and it would take the kid forever to think up something and say "My cat had kittens."

For grins and giggles, go on the site that shall not be named and search for "Wonderama" and you'll see an ABBA performance!


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Updated On: 10/30/06 at 04:44 PM

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#32re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 10/30/06 at 4:48pm

I loved Sesame Street before they decided to devote half of the show to Elmo. And Lamb Chop. Remember the spin-off, Charley Horse's Pizza Parlor?

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mejusthavingfun
#33re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 10/30/06 at 5:03pm

NathanLaneStalker - There is more to offer children these days than ever before. I'm not going to argue that there is a lot of garbage (Rugrats, Lilo and Stitch the series). Channels like Disney and Nick have lifted the Sesame model and built shows around it. Few people would suggest television should shoulder the soul responsibility of educating our youth. That said, Sesame Workshop has been very unsuccessful in every other endeavor outside of Sesame Street since its inception.

I've worked in children's television for 4 years. It is a business, and exceedingly competitive. Most data concerning the educational value of television is speculative. Recently I read that Teletubbies may promote autism. What we do know, is that giving any kind of children's media an educational slant or strong moral center is not a bad thing. Did you know Cartoon Network fills it’s FCC required block with shows that encourage laughing in children. Apparently there are studies that say laughing is educational.

The shows you mentioned pale in comparison to the curriculum and storytelling used in today’s television. It’s obvious your bias for Johnny, that show is pretty lame btw. Disney Channel’s early days were just an extension of its brands and an infomercial for the theme parks. Now the channel actually produces original content. Now while I do see some product placement and toy based shows, there is less than in the 80s. Shows like Masters of the Universe and Carebears were in place strictly to push merchandise.

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#34re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 10/30/06 at 7:17pm

¡VILLE ALLEGRE! had beautiful art direction!

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#35re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 10/30/06 at 8:06pm

I absolutely loved Lamb Chop and Sesame Street as a child. I believe I even had Lamb Chop sheets. :]

Does anyone remember the name of the show that had the girl with the clown nose, and the giant couch? Thanks. I loved that show.


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It was awesome.
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mejusthavingfun
#36re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 10/31/06 at 12:19am

The Giant Couch? I saw someone dressed as that girl on Saturday. Anyone remember Today's Special or Pinwheel?

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#37re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 10/31/06 at 12:32am

Who can forget Zoobilee Zoo!


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#38re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 10/31/06 at 2:24am

There are tons fo great shows for kids

Higglytown Heroes! (Disney)
About how people in the community are heroes,
like firefighters and crossing guards.

Lazy Town! (Nick Jr)
focuses on eating veggies and fruits
and being active (and lots of new songs)

The Backyardigans (Nick Jr)
They Sing A LOT!! YEAH!! All about kids
using their imagination.

Dragontales & Cyber Chase (PBS)

Little Einsteins (Disney)

Shows to avoid
Danny Phantom - I once saw an episode where he had what looked like an i-pod, bad "product placement" in a kids show


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NathanLaneStalker
#39re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 10/31/06 at 5:25am

I admit that there are some good children shows (Such as Higgly Town Heroes, Lazy Town, Little Einsteins, and Johnny nd the Sprites) What I was saying is how we need 3D animation and toy promotions to take the easy way out. ALL cartoons are 3D animation now (and though Rugrats and other cartoons aren't 3D you bet your bottom they use comupters to make that crap.) Back in the old days we had live action and hand drawn cartoons, not what we have now.


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NathanLaneStalker
#40re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 10/31/06 at 5:27am

I admit that there are some good children shows (Such as Higgly Town Heroes, Lazy Town, Little Einsteins, and Johnny and the Sprites) What I was saying is how we need 3D animation and toy promotions to take the easy way out. ALL cartoons are 3D animation now (and though Rugrats and other cartoons aren't 3D you bet your bottom they use comupters to make that crap.) Back in the older days we had live action and hand drawn cartoons, not what we have now.


"I'm tellin' you, the only times I really feel the presence of God are when I'm having sex and during a great Broadway musical." - Nathan Lane - Jeffrey

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#41re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 10/31/06 at 6:50am

i loved BIG BLUE MARBLE...i still sing it to myself sometimes...

"the worlds a big blue marble when youuuuu seeeee it from out therrrrrre...."

& THE GREAT SPACE COASTER!

"its the greeeat space coastahhhhh, get on board!"

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#42re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 2/11/07 at 9:20am

SuzyQzy, how can you say Danny Phantom is a show to avoid? I admit it is slight geared toward teens more, but it is one of those whole-family shows, as are Avatar and Kim Possible.


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#43re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 2/11/07 at 10:34am

It ain't the same no mo'...

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#44re: What has children's television come to?
Posted: 2/11/07 at 6:03pm

You guys are taking me back... I loved the Great Space Coaster, Electric Company, EARLY Sesame Street, 3-2-1 Contact, Zoom, etc.

Back then, children's TV just seemed more innocent and playful, but it also had an adult edge/sensibility thanks to pioneers like Jim Henson. Some of today's shows are so cutesy they make my teeth ache. But this cutesiness may be due in part to the fact that networks are gearing more TV shows to younger children ages 2 and below. And according to the American Academy of Pediatrics, children under 3 should not even be allowed to watch television.

Shows built on an educational foundation that have real actors (puppetry artists included) don't seem to stay on air for very long--maybe it costs too much to produce, I don't know. But in my opinion, shows like these typically make the best children's shows because they are more authentic and are less concerned with selling merchandise.

Some examples of good shows that have come and gone:

Shining Time Station
The Puzzle Place
The Big Comfy Couch
Electric Company
3-2-1 Contact
Zoom (the revival from the late 90's is gone too)
Fraggle Rock
Circle Square


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