#1
Posted: 8/9/15 at 3:17pm
I'm not sure this explains it totally, but maybe I have to buy the book...
Why Straight Men are having sex with Straight Men
#2
Posted: 8/9/15 at 4:48pm
The Getty file photo used to illustrate the thesis suggests cutting room floor footage of either Yentl or Quest for Fire.
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#3
Posted: 8/11/15 at 9:51am
You know, I've never been one to insist that every homophobic man is secretly gay, but I have to wonder after watching HUNTED: THE WAR AGAINST GAYS IN RUSSIA (directed by Ben Steele; narrated by Matt Bomer). (Yes, I know there has also been some academic research which has concluded that homophobes are statistically more apt to be closeted gays.)
The torturing of gay men shown in the film is like a parody of gay S&M films, from B&D to golden showers.
>>> If it isn't clear why I'm posting this, I'm agreeing that homosexual behavior is a normal part of heterosexual expression and, yes, some men use homophobia to mask their same-sex attractions.
#4
Posted: 8/11/15 at 2:53pm
There's an old standup routine, I forget by who, that says "a thing can only be so straight before it's rendered gay." Things on that siding scale of homoeroticism include pro wrestling, frat culture and the Village People, who represent what happens when you cross the breaking point of hyper masculinity.
#5
Posted: 8/11/15 at 11:47pm
I don't know who said that, but ANIMAL HOUSE did a great job of dramatizing the homoeroticism of frat initiations.
In HUNTED, the attacks are carried out by gangs of boys (and a few girls). As they cluster around their victim, they make gay bashing look very much like a circle jerk (to mention yet another homo hetero activity.)
#6
Posted: 8/11/15 at 11:58pm
Many of these men are pro-choice.
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#7
Posted: 8/12/15 at 2:19am
"Many of these men are pro-choice."
Just in case they find a gay gene? 
#8
Posted: 8/12/15 at 3:12am
Hooked up with a 23 year old a few months ago who described himself as "heteroflexible". I had to pretend to use the bathroom just so I could get the Liz Lemon eyeroll out my system.
#9
Posted: 8/12/15 at 3:55am
BECAUSE THEY ARE GAY and don't want to admit it
HorseTears, how old r you?
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#10
Posted: 8/12/15 at 8:42am
You should get the f*ck out of this thread. You contribute nothing productive to the discussion of sexuality, seeing as you don't even believe in bisexuality. Begone, witch.
#11
Posted: 8/12/15 at 4:44pm
I don't know who said that, but ANIMAL HOUSE did a great job of dramatizing the homoeroticism of frat initiations.
Right around the same time National Lampoon published an article devoted to the subject complete with VERY graphic photos of frat initiations and parties. That article was quite influential to my childhood.
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Updated On: 8/12/15 at 04:44 PM
#12
Posted: 8/12/15 at 11:21pm
I love the term 'Bro-job'...
Just sayin'....
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#13
Posted: 8/13/15 at 11:34pm
"Right around the same time National Lampoon published an article devoted to the subject complete with VERY graphic photos of frat initiations and parties. That article was quite influential to my childhood."
Now I'm sorry I missed the article, Matt.
Fraternities and sororities were banned at my high school, so we had "service clubs", which were basically the same thing except members didn't live together.
Initiations involved making new members run around naked in the Everglades and then stick articles of food up their butts. I thought it was the gayest thing I'd ever heard of and was terrified I might actually enjoy it and be outed. (Fortunately, I came down with appendicitis and was having surgery during the dreaded event. I was so relieved and grateful!)
#14
Posted: 8/14/15 at 2:51pm
Here's an interview with Jane Ward that expands on these topics- the traditions of "rituals" in straight college culture certainly comes from a weird place- "disgust/desire" anyone?
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/08/why-straight-men-have-sex-with-each-other.html
#15
Posted: 8/15/15 at 6:53am
As Kinsey said, Everyone's Different. This is hardly news.
And - and this is also hardly a revelation - a great many men, of all sexual orientations, like a great many women, of all sexual orientations, find both the idea and the reality of both finding and having sex extremely exciting and enjoyable.
Some of these men are exclusive in the gender of their prospective and actual partners. Let's call them monosexual (aka some are 100% gay while others are 100% straight).
Some are very non-exclusive in the gender of their prospective and actual partners. Let's call them bisexual.
Others are primarily exclusive in the gender of their prospective and actual partners. But not entirely 100% exclusive.
We can call these people whatever we decide to call these people.
These categories are made somewhat more complicated because they can vary over the course of a lifetime, can be interrupted by periods, in some cases, of asexuality, and can be modified circumstantially by conditions of alienation from one gender or the other; and then, of course, their is the added fact that there are people who do not self-identify as either simply male or simply female (or whose self-identification may not accord with apparencies).
Then we can decide to either get hung up on the terminology.
Or not.
The "why" remains the same.
But I'll repeat it:
As Kinsey said, Everyone's Different. And this is hardly news.
And - and this is hardly a revelation - a great many men, of all sexual orientations, like a great many women, of all sexual orientations, find both the idea and the reality of both finding and having sex extremely exciting and enjoyable....
Updated On: 8/16/15 at 06:53 AM
#16
Posted: 8/16/15 at 4:12am
It's the ones that let you do absolutely EVERYTHING to every orifice [and returns the favor], then, as one said to me last night-'NO KISSING-it absolutely freaks me out !'.--now THAT takes the wind out on my balloon.
And I was all puckered up for some French too.
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