Will & Grace

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Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 11:54am

I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this show but think its totally underrated. Do you guys like it as well? Whats your favorite character/episode?
FYI: Season 3 comes out September 7th on DVD!!!!!!!!!!!

Updated On: 8/18/04 at 11:54 AM

#2

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 11:56am

I didn't get into it until it was a few seasons along - I only like Karen and Jack. And Grace's mother, of course - a little Debbie Reynolds can't hurt!!! But the writing is generally pretty hysterical.

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#3

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 11:57am

this is the only sitcom i bother watching.
I LOVE it!

#4

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 11:58am

i like the show but frankly find it overrated - there is no way that it deserves an emmy nod for "best comedy." the writing is nowhere as smart as many other overlooked shows. in fact, while i still enjoy the show enough to watch, the jokes are very sophomoric and the characters more and more overdrawn caricatures of their former selves.

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Updated On: 8/18/04 at 11:58 AM

#5

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 11:58am

The writing has kinda weakened over the seasons. But Karen Walker is, hands down, one of the most well-written characters in the history of television.

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#6

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 11:58am

I think the one with Graces water bra is hysterical! And also, the one where Grace gets Will a dog. Karen makes me pee my pants. Its a genuinely funny show.

#7

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Posted: 8/18/04 at 11:58am

I LOVE this show. Not flawless, but HYSTERICAL.

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#8

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:01pm

Karen is not only well-written, but very few people could play it. Megan Mullally is genius in that role.

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#9

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:01pm

Generally hysterical, yes. I used to say that I would just like the show to be called Jack & Karen. Well, this season when Messing left that's exactly what we got. And it didn't work too well. It just proves that for this show, each character is a vital ingredient to the formula that makes it a success.

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#10

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:01pm

Underrated??? Four Emmys and 25 various other awards as well as being a critical success and a ratings hit! The show is about to begin its seventh season. How is it possibly "underrated"???

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#11

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:02pm

Like everyone, I agree that the show has its flaws- but I LOVE it so much and I get some good laughs out in every episode.

And I am EXACTLY like Grace was in the first seasons of the show. It's ridiculous.

#12

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:04pm

Underrated wasnt the right word.
I meant people dont really watch it that much and its not like a hugely popular show like Friends was *moment of silence*. But, the critics love it. I have a feeling Season 7 is gonna be hysterical! I can only hope.

#13

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:06pm

OMG Matt, I always call the show Jack & Karen!! See, we ARE meant to be!!!

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#14

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Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:07pm

Now "Friends", there was an overrated show.

#15

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Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:07pm

Oooo them's fightin' words, LG.

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#16

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:07pm

Friends. Now there's a show where the writing declined every season. The last few seasons had maybe one or two laughs an episode. That show was way too overrated.

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"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."

The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.

#17

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:07pm

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EDIT: LG, you took the words out of my mouth.

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"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."

The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.

Updated On: 8/18/04 at 12:07 PM

#18

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:08pm

*grabs heart*

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Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

#19

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:08pm

Not necessarily true. Season 8 (Rachel's pregnancy) was hands down, the most well written season the series ever saw.

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"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."

#20

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:08pm

I always called it the Jack and Karen Show. Debra Messing is great but Eric McCormack as Will is generally very underserved by the material. And the show itself started to implode midway through season 4 and I lost interest. I caught an epiosde of season 6 when I was in LA last year and thought it was the worst thing I have ever seen. Shame.

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#21

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:09pm

I've watched tons of Friends episodes- and I laughed in TWO, TWO of them. Some couldn't even budge a giggle out of me.

And the storyline isn't exactly fantastic, IMO, so it had to be the comedy, which fell short.

Updated On: 8/18/04 at 12:09 PM

#22

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:09pm

Season 8, wasn't that the season that ended with Rachel giving birth, or was that season 9?

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#23

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:10pm

I'll give you that, Matt. I guess it is the middle seasons that really were terrible. And the last season was not funny at all. All the episodes were just "sentimental" without any real comedy.

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"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."

The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.

#24

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:12pm

The last season was absolutely deathly except for the episode with Christina Applegate as Rachel's sister, which made me pee myself laughing. A lot.

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Nothing precious, plain to see, don't make a fuss over me. Not loud, not soft, but somewhere inbetween. Say sorry, just let it be the word you mean.

#25

re: Will & Grace

Posted: 8/18/04 at 12:13pm

Debra Messing does absolutely nothing for me. Overrated wide-eyed mugger.

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Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson