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an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the bamsters

Posted: 4/14/08 at 4:13pm

...or why whiny women still presist in thinking hillary deserves anything more than to be punched in the face.
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re: an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the b

Posted: 4/14/08 at 4:23pm

Yep. She hits it right on the head. The only reason anyone votes for Obama is that they are misogynistic, dreamy eyed pigs who have no idea what they are doing.

Sheesh. I hope to God she didn't get paid to write that incredible pile of donkey poop.

re: an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the b

Posted: 4/14/08 at 4:28pm

geez, mister defensive, that's not what i took away from the article at all, but then i don't really have a horse in the race.

re: an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the b

Posted: 4/14/08 at 4:29pm

Like a cranky kid who's been stuck in the backseat too long I can't stop asking "ARE WE THERE YET?"

re: an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the b

Posted: 4/14/08 at 4:31pm

Joe - it helps to ease the stress if you juist keep kicking the back of their seat.

re: an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the b

Posted: 4/14/08 at 4:36pm

i will turn this election around and take us straight home if you two cannot get along back there!

re: an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the b

Posted: 4/14/08 at 4:46pm

ARE WE THERE YET? Hillary won't stay on her side of the car! Can we stop and see the giant ball of twine? I want a juice box! NOT GRAPE GRAPE IS GROSS! Are we there yet?

re: an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the b

Posted: 4/14/08 at 4:50pm

don't make me stop this election!!

re: an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the b

Posted: 4/14/08 at 4:54pm

Dad, can't we stop? I need to go! DAAaaaad - I NEED TO GO!!! Da . . .

. . . nevermind.

#10

re: an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the b

Posted: 4/14/08 at 4:58pm

Papa it smells funny back here!

#11

re: an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the b

Posted: 4/14/08 at 5:03pm

Joe--you mis-read her, and I think deliberately. She was clearly talking about the men in her own circle.

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"...as a 32-year-old woman who is more liberal than either candidate, and who was quite torn until Super Tuesday, I had found myself increasingly defensive of Clinton in the face of the Obama worship that rules the mostly white, liberal, well-educated circles in which I work and travel. I was confused by the saucer-eyed, unquestioning devotion shown by my formerly cynical cohorts, especially when it was accompanied, as it often was, by a sharp renunciation of Hillary Clinton, whose policies are so similar to her opponent's. I was horrified by the frequent proclamations that if Obama did not win the nomination, his supporters would abstain from voting in the general election, or even vote for John McCain. I was suspicious of the cultlike commitment to an undeniably brilliant and inspiring man..."

#12

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Posted: 4/14/08 at 5:04pm

again? honey, tear some more pages out of an invonvenient truth. joe's got to clean up d again.

#13

re: an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the b

Posted: 4/14/08 at 5:16pm

PJ - That was the paragraph that rang the most true to me, too.

#14

re: an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the b

Posted: 4/14/08 at 5:28pm

I liked this section as well:

That does not mean that all privileged white male Democrats are sexist, anymore than it would be true to suggest that all working-class white Democrats (the segment of the party that is breaking for Clinton) are racist. But a lightly disguised uneasiness with female power, as well as the "we love women, just not that woman" rhetoric will be familiar to anyone who has paid attention to the reception of the feminist movement. It's the movement of which Clinton has become emblematic -– not because it was her bailiwick, but because she has been exactly the kind of woman that feminism made room for: ambitious, ball-busting, high-earning, untrained in the finer arts of hair care, and unwilling to play dumber (or nicer) than she is.

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re: an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the b

Posted: 4/14/08 at 5:58pm

"...ambitious, ball-busting, high-earning, untrained in the finer arts of hair care, and unwilling to play dumber (or nicer) than she is..."

Which is why she is beloved by women old enough to remember the women's movement and why she is beloved by those gay men who can worship an anti-diva.

(Anti-divas are strong women whose very toughness and lack of glamour makes them worthy of worship: political figures like Molly Ivins and Ann Richards, Helen Thomas and Liz Carpenter, actresses like Joan Blondell and Thelma Ritter, Faye Dunaway and Kathleen Turner, even late-career Bette Davis and the Joan Crawford of "Don't f*ck with me, fellas.")

It's also what Hillary has in common with Patti LuPone and why they inspire similarly nasty reactions from their detractors.

Updated On: 4/14/08 at 05:58 PM

#16

re: an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the b

Posted: 4/14/08 at 6:07pm

Great article.

The morning star always gets wonderful bright the minute before it has to go --doesn't it?

#17

re: an interesting look at the election, feminism and the misogyny of the b

Posted: 4/14/08 at 9:54pm

it's funny because it's true.

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