as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boca with the little boy- Page 2
as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boca with the little boy
#25re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 12:45pmI like older men, Papa. Did I hear you say "come to daddy?" should we reject you because your nickname/handle possibly sexualizes the sacred paternal bond? are you secretly projecting your need to be a child predator? *wink*
#26re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 12:48pmmy name is a song title. your vision of it clearly speaks to your own issues with children and sex. get help and stop having sex with children.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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#27re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 12:53pmyou've caught me out. The song title also refers to a sexualized version of Papa, of course. It simply couldn't be referring to any mambo but the vertical. My handle is to lure unsuspecting Disney poppets into my dark lair....
#28re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 12:59pmyou said it, not me, mr. i like 'em young.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
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#29Papa does great with it/Swings like a gate with it
Posted: 3/11/08 at 1:02pmSee, Papa loves MAMBO with MAMA. A healthy relationship between two adults. Papa's not hanging out waiting for a horny 15 year old in the steam room, he's holding the woman he loves in his arms on the dancefloor. Shhesh.
#30re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 1:02pmyou hypnotize them with voodoo music, while I use the anti-Semetic drawings of an egomaniac whose frozen decapitated noggin awaits the Rapture....and his eventual world-domination.
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#31re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 1:03pmPerry Como would be appalled at your interpretation
#32re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 1:05pmif a man refers to his wife or beloved legal-aged partner as baby and her to him as papa, of course it is masking latent pedophilia. Any armchair psychologist can tell you that.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
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#33re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 1:08pm
if I was the parent of a 15 year old teen boy who liked to talk to single older stange men at resorts, I would not be keen on allowing him into steamrooms alone
So you'd want to accompany so you could join in? Or just watch?
#34re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 1:12pmPHYLLIS, leave you, leave you, how I could I leave you? Steamrooms should have age restrictions, obviously.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
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#35re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 1:13pmOr maybe people shouldn't be having sex in them if they're at a resort where children could walk in.
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#36re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 1:17pmPhyllis, what a radical and fresh idea!
#37re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 1:18pmNever denied a crime was committed. The age restriction should be for age-of-consent in particular state all the way up to very attractive and still fit men (no oldies or fatties). You know, the kind of steamroom action you see depicted in pornos that no self-respecting moral gay man would ever admit watching: after all, those models are implying that THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
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#38re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 1:19pmLord, even for a sock puppet, you're crazy!
#39re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 1:30pm
Once again, if you are a gay man who has never flirted or kissed someone totally inappropriate, snuck-in-yourself-too-young or snuck in a underage friend to a bar, or engaged in some form of inappropriate behavior in a sem-public place, there must be a online forum somewhere for you to commune with the rest of the saints.
If it's "crazy" to be cautious to blindly accept the very tired and mostly untrue older-gay-man-as-predatory-pedophile stereotype, so be it. It doesn't make me a pedophile too. Get some humor, have some objectivity, and don't be so quick to judge.
Over and out.
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#40re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 1:53pm
So what is it? Are you too stupid to see a difference between sneaking into a bar and molesting a kid or are you being purposefully perverse?
#41re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 2:04pm
I think every case and every participant is different. One of my first encounters was with an older man (30s) and I was 16. I never felt like I had been molested at all. And I don't feel like I suffered any adverse effects from it.
That being said, in the eyes of the law, you can't evaluate the merits of molestation on a case-by-case basis. It would be impossible.
#42re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 2:21pm
I think FLIPPANCY's take on the purported "molestation" points out that neither the option of "stupid" or "perverse" is all-encompassing.
It would be nice to have a law of any kind that didn't need a case-by-case examination, but due to human nature, I think it's impossible. Thus they are called "cases" in court.
#43re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 2:23pmAAAAAND the countdown begins until I'm accused of belonging to NAMBLA, another skeleton in the bash-gays-at-all-costs "closet"....
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#44re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/11/08 at 3:13pm
Once again, if you are a gay man who has never flirted or kissed someone totally inappropriate, snuck-in-yourself-too-young or snuck in a underage friend to a bar, or engaged in some form of inappropriate behavior in a sem-public place, there must be a online forum somewhere for you to commune with the rest of the saints.
I've done all of those things. None of them ever involved someone underage (as in under 1
though. Your analogy doesn't follow. At all.
Updated On: 3/11/08 at 03:13 PM
#45re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/21/08 at 4:42pm
McGee was cleared today.
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Prosecutors clear official in Fla. sex case
McGee had been accused of assaulting boy, 15
By Megan Woolhouse, Globe Staff | March 21, 2008
Florida prosecutors dropped a case yesterday involving a Patrick administration official who had been accused of sexually assaulting a 15-year-old in a Gulf Coast resort.
For months, officials considered filing charges against Charles Stanley McGee, assistant secretary for policy and planning in Massachusetts, but were unable to make a case.
"I do not believe that there is sufficient evidence to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt," Assistant State Attorney Francine H. Donnorummo said in a statement yesterday. "Consistent with our legal and ethical considerations, I am therefore declining to file formal charges."
Investigators had no DNA evidence or witnesses corroborating the teenager's story, according to the statement, which outlined the problems in the case.
The 15-year-old, identified as Jonathan in the statement, said McGee, 38, performed sex acts on him in the steam room of the Gasparilla Inn & Club, a 95-year-old hotel and championship golf course in Boca Grande. Investigators were unable to locate the towels worn by either person so they could be inspected for forensic evidence linking either one to the scene. Investigators also did not gather any forensic evidence from the steam room, the report said.
The teenager, from Rochester, N.Y., told police a man had been asleep on a bench outside the steam room, but investigators were unable to identify him. Additionally, there was no video surveillance in the area, nor steam room sign-in logs for guests.
The teenager's father had called local police to report the incident. Police asked the teenager to identify the suspect from a police car, but the teenager said the windows of the car were too dirty to make an identification. When he stepped out of the car, he told investigators he was trembling too much to recognize the suspect. Police later disguised the teenager in glasses and a hat, at which time he identified McGee.
McGee was arrested Dec. 28 and held in jail overnight on $300,000 bond. On Jan. 7, Massachusetts officials placed him on unpaid leave from his $115,000 a year position. McGee's arraignment on a charge of sexual battery was repeatedly postponed in the weeks that followed.
Yesterday, it remained unclear whether McGee would return to work. Dan O'Connell, secretary of housing and economic development and McGee's direct supervisor, did not return phone calls, and his receptionist referred all questions to the governor's office. The governor's spokesman, Kyle Sullivan, did not return phone calls yesterday.
McGee's lawyer, Charles W. Rankin, issued a two-sentence statement about the resolution of the case. "The state attorney in Lee County, Fla., after a thorough investigation, has decided that no charges should be brought against Stan McGee," it said. "Mr. McGee believes the decision by the Florida prosecutor not to pursue this case speaks for itself, and he looks forward to going on with his life."
McGee, a Rhodes scholar and Harvard Law School graduate known for his shock of platinum hair, was instrumental in defeating efforts to overturn the legalization of gay marriage in the state. He served as director of civic and business outreach efforts of the advocacy group MassEquality. In 2004, his wedding to John Finley IV was highlighted in the "Vows" section of The New York Times.
Mitchell Adams, a longtime friend and executive director of the Massachusetts Technology Collaborative, called the prosecutor's decision to drop the case "magnificent."
"This has been the most horrible situation without any basis in fact," he said.
Prosecutors clear official in Fla. sex case
Roscoe
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#46re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/21/08 at 4:47pmWell, he wasn't exactly cleared, was he? They're basically saying that there isn't enough evidence to bring a case, not that he didn't do it.
#47re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/21/08 at 4:51pm
No, I believe that means he is cleared.
He is still guilty, however, of having Stupid Hair.
#48re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/21/08 at 4:55pm
"I just think it strange that in this country, if a 15 year old has sex with an adult, he is considered a minor and a victim and is treated as such. He couldn't possibly have the ability to consent. If the same 15 year old gets a gun and shoots someone, then he is considered an adult, tried as one and sentenced as an adult."
I'll add that 15 yrs are screwing other 15 yrs all over the place all the time. We've struck up the dialogue before about how consential laws are seriously outdated and misguided given that folks are living to the age of 200 these days.
When the life expectancy in the nation was mid-40s, if the chick could bleed she could breed. I don't want a 15-yr girl but there are obviously plenty of men that find them desirable, and in several countries in the hemisphere pay the girls' parents for turning them over. On the same sex front, pederasty is still prominent in the societies that are most oppressive of women.
roquat
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/25/05
#49re: as long as we're talking sex, how about the dem in the steamroom in boc
Posted: 3/21/08 at 4:55pmMany teenagers who are just coming out do temd to approach older men. This has nothing to do with "daddy" fantasies; it's simply safer (in their minds) than approaching other teenagers who might beat them up or worse. I am not saying this is right or advisable (or that this is what happened in this case) but it can lead to situations similar to what has been described here.
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