did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to rail about - you guessed it - whitey??- Page 2
did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to rail about - you guessed it - whitey??
mejusthavingfun
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/12/06
#25re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 5/20/08 at 10:58am
"Those missteps being of course to support a fellow democracy against terrorism, right?"
If you consider what he says is actual support for Israel then that's your prerogative. I think he is/was trying to divide the Jewish vote in Ohio and Florida by evoking the Holocaust and by damning the American government. It has nothing to do at all with Israel's well-being or security.
The reason I said before he drew a line in the sand is because he really did. The media and both Democratic and many Republican leaders will not align themselves with these tactics. They just wont. Support of the state of Israel comes from both sides of our political system, but nobody pushes more for it than the Democrats.
What Bush/McCain do by even bringing this up draws a line like the race divide. Israel has nothing to gain by any sort of divide for support from the American people. If Americans have to vote Democrat or Republican based on affiliation with Israel and a majority picks the "anti-Israel" side what good could come of it?
#26re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:01am
Do you just make this up as you go along? B/c that is the biggest load of nonsense I've heard all year.
Luscious
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/20/05
#27Obama Continues to Rise Above the Fray with Grace and Dignity
Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:02am
To date, I can not recall a candidate that has risen above the fray so consistently and calmly and has carried them self with as much dignity and grace. After 7 + years of complete and utter embarrassment, I’d be proud to call this man my President.
#28Obama Continues to Rise Above the Fray with Grace and Dignity
Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:03amand yet said so little.
mejusthavingfun
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/12/06
#29re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:04am
Well I offer you last weeks media circus around it. Conservatives like Chris Matthews went ape**** on this issue. It's not just him either it was all over the place.
They will not tolerate it.
vid
Updated On: 5/20/08 at 11:04 AM
#30re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:13amsilly, taz, expecting the fenchurch mpd collective to make any sense.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
Luscious
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/20/05
#31re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:14am
"and yet said so little."
To those of us who have been open to listening, his message has been loud and clear; not to mention that, at times, actions speak louder than words. If you have any questions about where he stands on the issues, you may want to pay a visit to his website. Have a lovely day!
BarackObama.com
#32re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:17am
to those of us who have been open to listening
i.e., we who hear what we want to hear and when we don't hear it we arbitrarily assign it to our chosen messiah, saint bammy, regardless of his actual positions.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#33re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:20am
The support of Israel is most vocal and most staunch from the far right of the Republican party - the evangelicals who believe that Jews have to be in Israel in order for prophecies of the bible to be realized.
The Bush Administration has been far more protective and defensive of Israel, more so that the Clinton Administration.
There is support of Israel, then there is support of settlements. There was actually an interesting article in today's LA Times which argues that US leaders are far more aggressive in their support of Israel and the settlements than many Israelis. I think this is because of the "end of days" scenario that many in the Christian Right are trying to facilitate.
There needs to be a two state solution, and settlements need to stop, and Israel's security needs to be protected. Many in the far right do not want a two state solution, especially if it means giving parts of Jerusalem to the Palestinians, because it is contrary to the set up needed for the end of days scenario to play out.
I can provide links later, but am off to work now.
mejusthavingfun
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/12/06
#34re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:21am
"silly, taz, expecting the fenchurch mpd collective to make any sense."
What is to be ascertained from Bush and McCain's hypocritical speech then? Seriously, if I don't know what I'm talking about you tell me what I'm missing.
#35re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:26am
Ok Luscious, now go drink your Kool Aid like a good boy.
Have a lovely day!
mejusthavingfun
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/12/06
#36re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:27am
"There is support of Israel, then there is support of settlements. There was actually an interesting article in today's LA Times which argues that US leaders are far more aggressive in their support of Israel and the settlements than many Israelis. I think this is because of the "end of days" scenario that many in the Christian Right are trying to facilitate. "
Yes the reality is that most Republican support for Israel comes from their need to carry the Evangelical vote which has the "End of Days" agenda. Unfortunately this has little to do with the actual well being of the state or real peace.
"The Bush Administration has been far more protective and defensive of Israel, more so that the Clinton Administration."
I would say politically yes, but Israel also was part of the "coalition of the willing" in Iraq and George Bush and his cronies are neo-cons. The Clinton/Democratic support for Israel comes from a different place but make no mistake Clinton supports/supported Israel.
Luscious
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/20/05
#37re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:30am
"i.e., we who hear what we want to hear and when we don't hear it we arbitrarily assign it to our chosen messiah, saint bammy, regardless of his actual positions."
No papa. I don’t believe that he's a saint OR a demon; just a man. A real one. As for his positions on the issues, I can assure you, I'm very well versed, thank you very much.
And for the record, I do not believe that Hillary is a saint OR a demon. I do not believe that McCain is a saint OR a demon. I do, however, believe that George W. Bush is the anti-Christ.
#38re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:48am
there you have it: the majority of bammy supporters believe in the anti-christ and as such clearly satanists are working to bring about the end of days.
just one more reason to vote mccain.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#39re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 5/20/08 at 12:14pm
Not necessarily. You have no idea who "everyone" is and what their agenda is. You also have no appreciation for--and fear of--the idea of the October Surprise.
You're also one of the irrational Hillary Haters who have clung to the false Hillary Is More Easily Defeated meme.
I thought we were supposed to unite the party, bitch. Way to listen to the pleas of your candidate. I said nothing about Hillary in this post and have never said that Hillary is more easily defeated. Don't be so arrogant as to write off the comments of every non-Hillary follower just because it makes it more convenient for you to pretend that there is no rational opinion other than your own. You're doing far more a disservice to Hillary with your attitude than Obama or McCain ever could.
Wanting life but never knowing how
mejusthavingfun
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/12/06
#40re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 5/20/08 at 12:16pm
"there you have it: the majority of bammy supporters believe in the anti-christ and as such clearly satanists are working to bring about the end of days.
just one more reason to vote mccain."
Actually you are wrong. The majority of Evangelicals believe in the Antichrist. These are part of Hagey's "flock." They also believe the Antichrist will be a male Jew. These are the people that will vote for McCain. They are the real anti-Semites.
Updated On: 5/20/08 at 12:16 PM
#41re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 5/20/08 at 2:26pm
Je suis l'Antéchrist.
#42re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 6/4/08 at 6:34am
the rumor gets longer legs.
we'll see if it's real on monday
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#43re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 6/4/08 at 6:50am...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#44re: did mishy bamster take to the pulpit at rev. kill whitey's church to ra
Posted: 6/4/08 at 7:22am
with farrakhan and jimmy meeks, no less!!!
mishy's whitey tape
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#45To Papa, with love.
Posted: 6/4/08 at 8:34am
From today's Philadelphia Inquirer:
Furious over Hillary-bashing, women vow to sink Barack
By Froma Harrop
The woman who shouted "McCain in '08" at the Democratic rules committee was speaking for a multitude.
After mounting for months, female anger over the choreographed dumping on Hillary Clinton and her supporters has exploded - and party loyalty be damned. That the women are beginning to have a good time is an especially bad sign for Barack Obama's campaign.
"Obama will not get my vote, and one step more," Ellen Thorp, 59, a flight attendant from Houston told me. "I have been a Democrat for 38 years. As of today, I am registering as an independent. Yee haw!"
A new Pew Research Center poll points to a surging tide of fury, especially among white women. As recently as April, this group preferred Obama over the presumptive Republican nominee John McCain by three percentage points. By May, McCain had an eight-point lead among white women.
What's dangerous for the Democratic Party is that, for many women, the eye of the storm has moved beyond Hillary or anything she does at this point.
The offense has turned personal.
They are now in their own orbit, having abandoned popular Democratic Web sites that reveled in crude anti-Hillary outpourings - and established new ones on which they trade stories of the Obama people's nastiness.
But worse than the online malice has been the affronts to their faces.
Tara Wooters, 39, a mother from Portland, Ore., told me that wearing a Hillary sticker around town has become an act of defiance. She recalls one young man telling her, "I'd rather vote for a black man than a menopausal woman."
"We don't hurl insulting, berating remarks at Obama supporters, or at Obama himself or his family," Debbie Head, 40, from Austin, Texas, complained to me.
Remember Peggy Agar?
The women do. They can't stop talking about the Detroit TV reporter who asked Obama a serious question at a Chrysler factory - "How are you going to help American autoworkers?" - to which he answered, "Hold on a second, sweetie."
The women are angry at the ludicrous charges of racism leveled against Clinton by the Obama camp - amplified in the supposedly respectable media - and projected onto themselves.
Jean B. Grillo, an "over-50" writer in Lower Manhattan, was pretty straightforward: "I am so tired as a white, ultra-liberal, McGovern-voting, civil-rights-marching, anti-war-fighting highly educated professional woman who totally supports Hillary Clinton to be attacked and vilified as racist and/or dumb."
Shauna Morris, 44, a lawyer from Largo, Fla., told me, "I am upper-middle class, and I still can't stand him - and it has nothing to do with race, believe me."
The women talk of being taken for granted by a party leadership that never spoke out on some of the outrageous Hillary-bashing - and, despite the close race, joined the early rush to crown Obama.
"Many of us feel slighted," said Lynn Eyrich Harvey, 76, from Los Gatos, Calif. "We feel that years of supporting the party is unimportant, that we are to sit down and shut up - but be sure to vote Democratic in November."
Passions can change, one supposes, but the women I hear from do not see the rampant sexism as isolated gaffes, particularly toward older women, but as a systemic dismissal of them - an enormous voting bloc that has been reliably Democratic.
"How Obama's campaign has treated Hillary will not be forgotten," Janet Rogers, 55, who runs a bed-and-breakfast in Medina, Ohio, wrote me. "I will vote for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee. My husband and friends all feel the same way."
Indeed. McCain in '08 has suddenly become a more likely prospect.
#46To Papa, with love.
Posted: 6/4/08 at 8:50am
Froma Harrop is a fierce Hillary supporter from my local paper. She's been Bashing Obama from the beginning and has been writing articles like this all along. Few here (a big Hillary state) see her as being objective, but rather as being one of the outraged women she writes about herself.
I'm sure the sentiment she reports does exist (unlike Papa's supposed Michelle tape) but I don't believe it is of the consequence, magnitude or duration put forward by people like Froma. I heard a woman on the radio this morning say that after last night she went from being a liberal Democrat to being a conservative Republican. Really? How does that happen? My suspicion is that she was a Republican to begin with that was supporting Hillary more for who she was than for what she stood for and thus was probably never on our side to begin with. So no great loss.
#47To Papa, with love.
Posted: 6/4/08 at 8:54amI have the Michelle Obama tape, and it is juicy. I will post it on Youtube. I will do so on the day after the inauguration.
#48the women love me & mac, except mishy who thinks i am a devil
Posted: 6/4/08 at 9:42am
laugh now while ya can art and mb.
and thanks somms.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
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