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don't ask, don't tell

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papalovesmambo
#0don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 11:19am

has cost $364m over the last 10 years. what a waste.
just admit that some members of the military are gay


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

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he was the gimmicky sort

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jrb_actor
#1re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 11:23am

It's one of the greatest hypocrisies our nation has ever endured. The ban should be lifted--the sky will NOT fall.


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MTVMANN
#2re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 11:24am

WOW!

A Question! This is something I've always wanted to know!

Let's say I got drafted(thank goodness, I'm almost out of those eligible years but around 2002 and 2003 it pretty scary). If I were to say I was gay, like admit to it, would they just send me home? But then, since I didn't go, would I be robbed of rights like social security or something?......all the things that you are robbed of if you don't sign your draft card.
Just Wondering what would happen to me should the situation ever arise.

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Elphaba
#3re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 11:25am

of course they have NO problem making us their corpses in Iraq..........gays are ok then.


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best12bars
#4re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 11:28am

Just change it to:

"Don't ask, don't tell... and don't kid yourself."


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robbiej
#5re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 11:28am

The real disaster is the number of linguistic experts in Farsi and other Arabic languages that we have lost because of this ridiculous policy.


"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."

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papalovesmambo
#6re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 11:37am

i think the policy was ammended to prevent the kind of quick exit that you're suggesting, mtv. but here's a decent resource on the policy.
sldn on dadtdpdh (don't ask, don't tell, don't pursue, don't harrass)


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

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FidoRock
#7re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 11:40am

nope.. during draft time, those policies are generally waived...

there were tons of loud screaming queens in Vietnam dying to get home.. doing drag and told "sorry, girlie, you're here to stay"


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MTVMANN
#8re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 11:44am

Well, that's just wrong. What age is the "safe age"? Is it when you turn 25 or when you turn 26?

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jrb_actor
#9re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 11:49am

MTVMANN--I highly recommend Conduct Unbecoming by Randy Shilts--the history of gays and lesbians in the US military from the American Revolution to the first Gulf War. It's a stunning book.


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papalovesmambo
#10re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 11:56am

unfortunately, mtv, the department of defense recently announced in a very quiet ceremony that "there is no age limit for drafting homosexuals." this came after admitting that dod computers were targetting likely gays for drafting based on review of their library records and internet habits.

donald rumsfeld himself was quoted as saying, "we're gonna use those nancies as cannon fodder until our troops can cascade across a pink carpet to victory."

i'd flee if i were you.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

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bwaysinger
#11re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 11:59am

It'd be funny, Papa, if it didn't ring so true. re: don't ask, don't tell

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MTVMANN
#12re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 12:00pm

So you're saying that for a gay man there is no age-limit for draft regulations
and for a straight man, it stops at age 25 or 26?

SAD! But the thing is, how do they know I or anyone is gay?

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KelRel
#13re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 12:02pm

MTV, honey I think that he was being sarcastic...I hope so at least.


"All the while making faces like a baby platypus who forget to take some Beano before eating a chimichanga." FindingNamo in reference to Jessica Simpson's singing.

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papalovesmambo
#14re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 12:04pm

i would never joke about something like this.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

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bwaysinger
#15re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 12:06pm

Papa definitely wouldn't. And he has the gay corpses in his basement to prove it.

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papalovesmambo
#16re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 12:09pm

careful, bway, you don't want a visit from shakes.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

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MTVMANN
#17re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 12:15pm

hmmmm, I wonder if Broadwayworld.com would qualify as a 'gay' website?

DG
#18re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 12:17pm

QUALIFY?!?!?

It sets the standard! re: don't ask, don't tell

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bwaysinger
#19re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 12:48pm

Papa, I thought I saw him on my fire escape in the snow on Saturday.
*shivers*

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Rathnait62
#20re: don't ask, don't tell
Posted: 2/14/06 at 12:54pm

My cousin was in the Air Force. He was passionate and committed - it was what he wanted to do his whole life. He was a dedicated pilot - dedicated to his country and his military position.

He had to have a secret email address to communicate with his family and friends so he could speak freely about himself and his life and who he really is. He was in love - had a partner whom he had to hide. The pressure and constant fear hanging over his head finally forced him to leave.

That's the good that Don't Ask, Don't Tell has done for the military.


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