how much longer before Sarah Palin uh hum...steps down?

[javero]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 12:16pm

Let'see, the federal government's fiscal year ends Tues and Congress is ready to get the heck out of Dodge to campaign for re-election. I say an announcement of Palin's departure from the GOP ticket will be made AFTER the one about the "multibillion bailout deal", most likely late Fri evening, Oct 3 to avoid the evening news cycle.

Oh sh*t, that's the real deal before McCain by his fiscal conservative partisans "Palin's Replacement for a Bailout".

Eureka!

[supportivemom]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 12:22pm

It's not gonna happen so deal with it. I really want her to bomb at the debates. There's no way you can cram all of that info into her head and have her come out like she knows what she's talking about. I hate how she tries to charm her way out of her unawareness. I have a feeling that the GOP will try to say that how she is treated at the debates is unfair and they will try to make Biden out to be the enemy. Absolutely ridiculous!

[javero]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 12:58pm

I know that my belief that she will be "dropped" from the ticket next week flies in the face of conventional wisdom.

However, if I were John McCain I would replace her with either Mike Huckabee or House Minority Leader John Boehner of OH asap.

Biden wants no part of Huckabee in a debate and Boehner has become the party darling of late for opposing Bush/Paulson on their $700B bailout plan.

Side note: my conservative sources on the Hill reveal that McCain fought frantically to add Condi Rice to the ticket but "lifestyle rumors" made that choice a non-starter for party heavyweights up for re-election.

Sarah Palin is a gimmick that can be disposed of as quickly as she was vetted.

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 12:58pm

I don't think she's going any where either. If that is the case, McCain would have to deal with the wrath of the, "she's just like me" people.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:04pm

Can you imagine what the base will do if he dumps her - Bob Barr will get a lot of those votes. The only reason they are so enthusiastic about McCain is because of Palin.

He is in a no-win situation right now. Keep her and live with your mistake. Dump her and alienate the strongest contingent of your support.

There are a couple of rumors floating around that Biden may be dumped, (and he still has not released his medical records), but I think that is just static to distract from Palin.

[javero]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:15pm

Are you folks suggesting that McCain's base would object to her being replaced by Huckabee?

To me, Huck is a wiser, more seasoned and ORDAINED version of Sarah Palin.

Of course he can't stand Huck but the neocons hate Palin. McCain-Huckabee was the ticket most of us here dreaded. It's also the one that gives the GOP across the board a raging hard-on.

McCain's a gambler more than anything else. Smart money was no where near Sarah Palin on the ticket. His attempt at preempting the debates was brilliant in that it replaced Palin's foibles in headlines, shifted the focus back on him as a "leader" and lulled Team Obama into a false sense of security.

Updated On: 9/27/08 at 01:15 PM

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:15pm

I live in DC and haven't heard any rumors of Biden being dumped from the ticket.

[javero]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:16pm

"I live in DC and haven't heard any rumors of Biden being dumped from the ticket."

I have and I work in DC!

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:20pm

Huckabee would not help him win, IMO.

You are right, it would preserve the base, but it would not get the moderates, independents, that he needs to win.

[javero]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:31pm

What worries me still are the voters from OH and parts of PA that will NEVER vote for a man anywhere close to black as president and the political fallout when Obama inevitably endorses any version of the bailout plan.

McCain is gaining a lot of traction out of this bailout business and his ability to prosecute Dubya's misguided wars while "earmarks" are coming back to haunt Obama.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:34pm

Yes, there is a small minority of voters who will not vote for Obama.

I will agree to disagree with you on some of your other assessments.

[Bickle]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:35pm

This story is really Biden who is truly in danger of being dumped from ticket.

[javero]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:39pm

I'd split the odds of McCain & Obama dropping their running mates right down the middle.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:46pm

I think it is unlikely Biden will drop out.

And, at this point, I hope Palin stays, because she is hurting him now more than she is helping him.

If I were taking odds though, Palin would be more likely than Biden. (IMO).

[artscallion]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 2:02pm

I'd eat my hat if Obama dropped Biden. I can't think of anything more unlikely and out of character for the Obama campaign. On the other hand, if I were McCain, and if Palin really is as bad as she appears to be in recent interviews, I'd feel like I had no choice but to drop her. Not because it's a good option, just the lesser evil.

Why do you think they'd drop her on 10/3, Javero. The VP debate is on 10/2. Are you saying they'll use her (anticipated) poor performance as a reason? Otherwise, why put her, us and themselves through that? Plus, it would just feel like they did an icky thing to her. Or do you think they'll make her step down as if the debate made her realize she shouldn't be on the ticket. I really can't see any Palin scenario that is a win. McCain's judgment looks bad in all cases.

Updated On: 9/27/08 at 02:02 PM

[supportivemom]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 2:20pm

No one is getting dumped- that's just ridiculous or wishful thinking. The debates should really uncover how unaware Palin is and the voters will hopefully see that! She'll just keep parading those kids around and hope for more empathetic votes. I still can't believe that the first dude hasn't given any speeches-Michelle Obama has and she has small kids to take care of as well. I'm sure the GOP is trying to hide him away as well.

[javero]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 2:37pm

"The VP debate is on 10/2."

The VP debate is SLATED for 10/2!

IMO McCain made a huge tactical blunder by trying to cancel last night's debate. He should have waited another week and canceled the Palin/Biden debate, then bounced her from the ticket late 10/3 to avoid the 6pm network news cycle. It's done all the time inside the Capitol Beltway.

The GOP is larger than John McCain and too many "downballot races" are in play. Parties can withstand losing at the top but no party wants to lose a lot of ground downballot. The bailout is turning into the salvation of the GOP legislators, including McCain. It allows them to distance themselves from Bush/Cheney and save the Republic.

Palin is disposable and McCain has the "stones" to trade up to Huckabee.

[Bickle]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 3:30pm

You know, this thread is hilarious.

Democrats delude themselves into thinking that Palin is not helping and that because of one poor answer in one interview with Katie C, that she will be dumped from the ticket.

Biden has been a gaffe machine since the day he was nominated. He's not helping Barry at all. Palin is drawing HUGE crowds and doing a fine job.

This campaign is not yet over. All of the Rovian strategies have not been employed. Palin and McCain will have the ghost of Ronald Reagan helping them before this campaign is over.

If I was Barry Obama, I'd think about running for the hills. It ain't over 'till it's over.

Latest Victim of PDS Updated On: 9/27/08 at 03:30 PM

[romantico]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 4:36pm

If Sarah were to bow out so she can spend more time with her family (this seems to be the #1 excuse those who have fled Bush's administration like to use)she would be applauded for putting country first. McCain could reject her resignation to make things more dramatic but she would leave giving McCain a second chance.Might even make the GOP look good if spun the right way.

As much as I like Hillary, I would HATE to see Obama drop Biden. No reason to as far as I can see. Vanity Fair is running a rumor that Hillary and Barack discussed it and she wants something else once he is elected.So, if Biden did drop out there is no guarantee Hillary would step in.

If Palin really bombs Thursday night I think she might step down. Still, the woman is being coached 24/7 from til Thursday and I would not be at all surprised to see the McCain camp try and postphone this debate as well.

Hate to say it, but I wish Democrats would not be so overconfident in Biden. Sure, he can debate her with ease but I still don't trust the GOP. She might debate with an earpiece or she may be more ready than we think. I say keep mum and wait til after the debate.

Fickle, you are hilarious if you think anyone takes you serious. You have zero credibility here.

[Luscious]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 5:06pm

The bar is set extremely low for Palin; therefore she just has to be able to form a few coherent sentences for her to do well. On the other hand, Biden is going to have to walk a tightrope. If he comes off too forceful he's going to give the impression that he's cocky and arrogant and be accused of beating up on a woman. She'll gain the sympathy vote. The debate is not going to be a cake walk for Biden by any means.

[Bickle]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 5:07pm

Luscious gets it right!

The show on Thursday night should be sub-titled, Biden's Great Gaffes.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 5:09pm

I think "Sarah Palin's Failin's" is far, far more likely.

[supportivemom]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 5:12pm

Well, I think they should check the debaters for ear pieces because that certainly wouldn't be fair. So far, Palin just keeps saying the same things over and over again in a slow, well-patterned manner. Just saw her interview at Ground Zero and her answers were completely predicatable..."the American people need to see this...the great people of New York are rebuilding....we must NEVER let the terroists into our country again- we must go there to fight them." I don't think we let the terrorists in- they were already here and had a sneak attack. I'm sure there are more people like them already here in our great nation. And Luscious- I TOTALLY agree with you and think that the McCain camp is betting on Biden to screw this up. I'm sure they already have sound bites for the media about poor Sarah Palin- Geez!

[StockardFan]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 5:13pm

"I think "Sarah Palin's Failin's" is far, far more likely."

Good one, Reg!

[artscallion]

Posted: 9/27/08 at 5:40pm

Actually, Lucious, the format for the VP debate is different and doesn't allow for the interaction between Palin and Biden that last night's debate allowed between McCain and Obama. It will be more of them taking turns answering questions with no followup responses. I don't anticipate Biden having any trouble as relates to his treatment of Palin.

I also don't think sexism would exist in being too tough with her, but with the notion that he has to be afraid of such a thing. She's in the big leagues now. And as long as Biden and the moderator treat her the same way they'd treat a man in the same position, play ball.