iPhone Help--Pal Joey
iPhone Help--Pal Joey
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iPhone Help--Pal Joey#1
Posted: 6/19/13 at 11:53pmYou previously advised me to get the iPhone 4S vs the iPhone 5, per my usage needs. Am thinking you are savvy iPhone user and that you therefore know about the big iPhone software change coming up this fall. What is your opinion re getting the 4S now and counting on its being viable for the upgrade, vs. waiting till fall and hoping for price decline on the 5?
iPhone Help--Pal Joey#2
Posted: 6/20/13 at 12:07amCan I go on as his understudy? The upgrade will work on all iPhones from the 4 on up. However, look for a new model called the 5s to come out around the time of the new operating system.
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iPhone Help--Pal Joey#2
Posted: 6/20/13 at 12:13amThanks, Namo. Standing ovation for your understudy performance! I am caught, as I can now get a free 4 with my upgrade, pay $50 for a 4S, or take my chances and wait till the fall, when I think the 4S will be the freebie, when something beyond the 5 comes out, as you state it will. I am on a budget so have to be careful. Merci beaucoup.
iPhone Help--Pal Joey#3
Posted: 6/20/13 at 12:32amDon't get the 4! If you don't want to spend the money now, I would just wait until a newer model comes out so that the price of the 4s will be reduced with upgrade. I've had the 4 and the 4s and it's worth it to wait for the 4s. I love my iPhone.
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iPhone Help--Pal Joey#4
Posted: 6/20/13 at 1:07amYou should already be able to get a 4s very cheap without having to sign a contract. The 4s is wonderful.
iPhone Help--Pal Joey#5
Posted: 6/20/13 at 1:09am
I agree with the others who advise against upgrading to the iPhone 4 at this point. If you can wait until the 5S is released (most likely somewhere in the September/October range) it is indeed likely that the 4S will become the new free upgrade and the 5 will come down in price. While Apple is pretty good about supporting their older handsets with the newest operating systems as long as they can it is still a much smarter choice to not add an additional limit to how long you can get the newest iOS by upgrading to a model that is already three years old.
Updated On: 6/20/13 at 01:09 AM
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iPhone Help--Pal Joey#6
Posted: 6/20/13 at 5:41amThanks, everybody. Dame, I didn't know I could get the 4S now without signing a contract. Verizon is telling me I need to take a 2-year contract to get the 4S for $49.95. I will check elsewhere. Am ruling out the 4 now. Really appreciate all the help!
iPhone Help--Pal Joey#7
Posted: 6/20/13 at 8:01amI like my 4S but I have to confess that I liked my BlackBerry more.
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iPhone Help--Pal Joey#8
Posted: 6/20/13 at 9:36am
I have the 5, and I like my Blackberry (work issued) more...
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iPhone Help--Pal Joey#9
Posted: 6/20/13 at 10:25am
Before you consider upgrading your hardware, I think you should take a closer look at iOS 7 and compare it to the features of Google/Android OS.
I've been an Apple guy from Day 1 (back in the 80s), but even I have to admit that Jony Ives and his iOS 7 are taking Apple's mobile OS more in the direction of mirroring Google's.
Cosmetically, I'm disappointed that Ives is abandoning skeuomorphism in favor of the "flat" design. It feels like only yesterday when Apple was touting the beauty of the retina screen, and how the details of all its skeuomorphic icons and apps really shone. That kind of design aesthetic is what set Apple apart from the "business-only" designs of Microsoft and Google.
Apart from the interactive depth feature of iOS 7, many, many other design elements look very much like Windows Aero. Also, the hardware itself will be moving in a "cheaper" direction with the introduction of the colored aluminum phones as an option.
Since the design aspects of both the hardware and OS are taking a more generic turn, it's worth taking a closer look at how Apple's OS compares in functionality to its competitors. Apple Maps was (and still is somewhat of) a disaster. Google Now, as well as other voice command features, are very competitive with Siri. Gestures are also a feature of functionality that has become much more closely competitive. There's also the notion of the need to "jailbreak" to consider.
Like I said, I've always been an Apple fanboy, but the introduction of iOS 7 has given me pause to take a closer look at the competition. Quality of hardware and aesthetics no longer hold the same significance at Apple since Steve Jobs died (sad day for me!). Personally, I'm finding that I can't excuse functionality (or lack of) for reasons of aesthetic form any more, and the gaps in functionality between Apple and competitive OSs is getting much smaller. I think it's now worth considering less expensive alternatives.
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EDIT: Per techcrunch.com:
only the iPhone 5 and iPod touch will get all the features announced at WWDC. The iPhone 4 and 4S will only get the new iOS 7 look and a splattering of features. And forget about the iPhone 3GS and older iPhones. They will be stuck in the skeuomorphic world of iOS 6 forever.You might consider the option of holding on to what you currently have until your contract expires. (If you want to buy some time to consider researching your options.)
Updated On: 6/20/13 at 10:25 AM
iPhone Help--Pal Joey#10
Posted: 6/20/13 at 12:05pm
Why didn't you put anything in boldface in that post?
Not even Jonny Ives?
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iPhone Help--Pal Joey#12
Posted: 6/20/13 at 12:29pm
"There's also the notion of the need to "jailbreak" to consider."
If you're going to bring up the "need to jailbreak" while talking about iOS (which is hardly a need for such a large majority of iPhone users), then make sure you also mention the need to root and flash and download a ROM with Android devices (which is actually a much more common need with Android than iOS, since the handset manufacturers get to decide what updates they'll actually support, and the carriers are allowed to add whatever extra software they decide to add as well on Android devices).
iOS still has that huge advantage over Android in that if you buy a new iPhone you know what you are getting and are pretty much guaranteed to get operating system updates for the next couple of years. With Android there is no guarantee. You can wind up with the latest version (Jellybean or Ice Cream Sandwich or whatever the newest one is now), or you can turn on your "new" phone and find that it is already outdated, or could quickly become so.
Android is open source, which is indeed good for a number of users, but can cause a lot of headaches for a person who just wants their phone to work and has little advanced tech knowledge, which (and no offense is meant) it sounds like the OP is.
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iPhone Help--Pal Joey#13
Posted: 6/20/13 at 1:47pm
>> If you're going to bring up the "need to jailbreak" while talking about iOS (which is hardly a need for such a large majority of iPhone users) [...]
To be fair, I mentioned the notion of the need to jailbreak. I didn't imply that jailbreaking is a necessity for all users.
...but it is a consideration for more than just the fractional minority that your statement implies. That's why there was so much hub-bub regarding evasi0n (<---- ooh, lookey there - boldface) with iOS 6.1, and why there was so much rejoicing on tech blogs when US Federal regulators declared it lawful to jailbreak.
To be clear, the point of my post wasn't to declare that any OS was better/worse than another. It was to simply to point out that:
* In the advent of iOS 7, the gaps regarding differences in mobile OSs are much more narrow than beforeUpdated On: 6/20/13 at 01:47 PM
* It's worthwhile to compare, especially if cost may be a factor
* and most importantly, In response to the OP's question, to take full advantage of iOS 7, the user must upgrade to an iPhone 5
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iPhone Help--Pal Joey#14
Posted: 6/20/13 at 2:52pm
"and most importantly, In response to the OP's question, to take full advantage of iOS 7, the user must upgrade to an iPhone 5"
The only feature I've heard that will not be available for the 4s in iOS7 will be AirDrop.
Other than that, 4s users will be fine. At least I hope so, since I have a 4s.
FWIW, I think iOS7 looks great! I for one welcome our new flat design overlords!
But seriously, what they announced last Monday was just barely a beta. I'm sure it will change even more by the time it is released.
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