if huckamania can't win sc, he won't win fl. he's done. i think the squirrel in the popcorn popper did him in. you can say things like that on the campaign trail, but not on the today show. moroni finishes behind admiral painter (who has admittedly been living in sc for the last few weeks) . but he sure cleaned up in nevada, huh? boy that strategy looks as good as jesus drinking at sloppy joe's in the keys. rudy better hope he finds some momentum somewhere, somehow.
i now feel mccain can win this. if he wins fl. every gop moninee since 1980 has won sc. so...
mccain vs. clinton?
Every primary that Giuliani loses is a like a kiss from the baby jesus.
"mccain vs. clinton?"
Could be - certainly is heading that way.
a mccain/huckabee ticket placates the socons, the moderates and the security minded but will infuriate the neo-cons and the small government folk.
is mccain's appeal along with huckster's zeal a winning combination?
huckabee on the ticket is a mistake.
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gonna be Romney, not McAngry McCain
McCain/Romney ticket, perhaps?
I could see Romney getting a surprise nomination over McCain... however McCain, I think, has much more name recognition than Romney does... and lord knows this media-driven election will not be won solely based on the candidates' political ideologies.
To those saying Romney, how is it you see him getting back in it?
Super Tuesday domination because of... blandness?
I can't see Romney getting the two slot either, he does nothing to help with McCain's biggest weakness- Theocons.
The establishment big money repubs, who are the Romney block, will switch to McCain because he is the nominee, but the hicksville lot want a southerner, and the more that person is considered a "nutjob" by people like us the better.
I was thinking it won't be Huckabee though, just so it can be someone "untainted" by the campaign.
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"To those saying Romney, how is it you see him getting back in it?"
Wha? He's leading the delegate count. He stomped McCain in Nevada today.
Updated On: 1/19/08 at 11:59 PM
Whoever wins the Republican nomination will lose in November.
Nothing any one of this sorry pack can do will inspire the dispirited Republican voters to show up.
Not even Rovian campaigning against a "black Muslim" or "lesbian feminazi" Democrat will inspire those formerly Republican voters.
Smart Republicans are looking toward 2012.
Oh--and whoever wins will have to accept Jeb as his running mate. It's been decreed.
He won Nevada, that the other Republicans didn't even compete in.
He won Wyoming that no one competed in.
He won Michigan, that was semi-contested and he was on his "home-turf".
The delegate count at this point is still negligible.
My point is, what states do you see him winning moving forward?
Certainly Romney COULD still win, but at this point the best he could get is even money with McCain.
Florida is a total toss-up, if Romney wins there I think he wins New York and California, in any other case I think McCain wins those.
Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Arkansas, West Virginia, Oklahoma, and Arizona are all definite losers on Feb 5 for Romney.
Jeb Bush says...
"Isn't it my turn YET, Mom?"
no, i'm pretty sure they hate each other and romney brings nothing johnny ain't already got. huck bring southern appeal and the evangelicals.
well, pj, i hope your valued sources don't mind if the rest of us keep focused on this fall. especially since the latest round of head-to-heads has the angry man beating either the carpet bagger by 3 or fingers by 5 in the general. oh i know, i know, the republicans are all going to sit home and watch as another clinton is inaugurated. mmmmmkay.
ya might want to look at the various factions on your side. i mean if blondie po's the african americans anymore with her coded comments and "negative" campaign are they gonna sit out the general election to punish her for taking the muslim from them should she be the nominee? does the youth vote get turned off and sit at home when they see their enthusiasm for "change" crushed under the wheels of an old school democratic machine?
The party power structure will not have McCain and they will not Have Huckabee.
The ticket will be: ROMNEY/BUSH '08.
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I'd be very surprised if any Bush gets on a ticket. There's no way they'd risk having that name on anything.
i can never tell if you're serious anymore with how surreal this campaign has already gotten, but i'll bet you a drink that it's not romney/bush. we on?
You're on. If Romney/Bush is the Republican ticket, you buy me a Single Malt Scotch. If Romney/Bush win in November, you buy me a double--with an Oxycontin chaser.
But remember my sources are often wrong--because they believe their own spin.
And Yawper, I'm not sure the people who are pushing for Jeb to be the VP candidate give a SH*T about the next four years. They've already given that up. They're focused on taking back the White House in 2012.
if it's mccain/huckabee i'll take the same. if they win in november, ditto.
I'd like a shot gun chaser.
Conservative radio-talk-show host (and bestselling author) Mark Levin on McCain:
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Saturday, January 19, 2008
This Race [Mark R. Levin]
The problem for the Republicans in this race is that none of them have received a majority of the vote. The winner gets about one-third of the vote, and is declared the big winner (usually said to have momentum, or what have you). Yes, he wins a plurality. But none of them have won the hearts and minds of the GOP. And in some cases, they are relying on Democrats and independents for their relatively meager vote tallies. McCain still is not winning conservatives. Huckabee is not as big an Evangelical vote-getter as thought.
It will come down to delegates, as it must. The problem for McCain is his record (which some of his supporters want us to downplay, or to limit to certain issues most important to them, or claim what matters is that he can beat the Democrat, or whatever). That's not going to work right now. Even if this website were to close down tonight and never reappear, McCain's positions on some major issues simply won't go down with a lot of conservatives.
And this isn't about wishing for the return of Ronald Reagan. This is about looking at the votes and opinion polls. I think most Republicans and conservatives can accept an imperfect candidate, as they always have. But, speaking for myself, I am as frustrated as I believe so many others are. It is hard to see how some of these candidates can draw the movement together, especially McCain, has spent a decade undermining major parts of it.
I am also convinced that Huckabee is now running for the second spot on the ticket. And he is likely to hold out to the bitter end, hoping his delegates will make him a player in the end. He has been extremely generous in his praise to McCain throughout the process. That's where he's putting his money. I was convinced a few weeks ago that McCain and Huckabee were teaming up against Romney. Time will tell.
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Did I actually suggest McCain/Romney last night? okay, no more political threads for me after eleven, that made no sense.
I would like to say "Well Huckabee would be harmless enough as VP" but, thanks to Cheney, we've seen how false that would be.
Honestly, I just don't see Romney being electable in a general election. I'm not sure that Huckabee would be electable in a general election either, but I've also greatly underestimated the fundamentalist vote in the past, so I could be wrong. McCain/Huckabee does, to an extent, make sense, though it certainly wouldn't be my ideal. Then again, any combination of these candidates being inaugurated in a year is not my ideal, so there you go.
And Fromage, political parties are necessary in a lot of ways to balance the divide of opinions in our country. No matter how nice of an image it may be, Americans are never going to hold hands and sing and get along and "unite!" for the greater good, there's just too much of a leap in philosophy there.
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