so it was pathetic and childish and desperate when mccain did it

[papalovesmambo]

so it was pathetic and childish and desperate when mccain did it#1

Posted: 8/11/08 at 10:27am

what is it now that bammy's doing it?
bammy's own celeb attack ad

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[PalJoey]

re: so it was pathetic and childish and desperate when mccain did it#2

Posted: 8/11/08 at 10:29am

Enough of this "New Politics" crap. Let's sling some MUD!

[Gothampc]

re: so it was pathetic and childish and desperate when mccain did it#2

Posted: 8/11/08 at 10:30am

But you don't understand! Obama is a new type of leader. So anything done before him really wasn't done until he did it.

If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

[romantico]

re: so it was pathetic and childish and desperate when mccain did it#3

Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:15am

Sorry Papa, I just posted this. Didn't see yours. Both ads are pretty lame, but I think Obama's is better. Get use to it. Petty ads like this are going to be what we see now til November.

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[Borstalboy]

re: so it was pathetic and childish and desperate when mccain did it#4

Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:27am

Bad ad. Repeating the GOP's "celebrity" angle just feels uninspired and derivative. We shouldn't fear John McCain because he's a celebrity, we should fear him because no one has any idea where he stands on any issue.

"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali

[Borstalboy]

re: so it was pathetic and childish and desperate when mccain did it#5

Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:38am

What I would do is make an ad spoofing the word "maverick" which is thrown around like confetti regarding McCain since I-don't-know-when. In other words, turn the word "maverick" into something resembling "confused" or "loose cannon".

"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali

[Unknown User]

re: so it was pathetic and childish and desperate when mccain did it#6

Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:40am

I think they did the "Maverick" one Borstal- McCain had a commercial that showed people talking about what a Maverick he was, so they went out and got clips of all the people talking about how he USED to be outspoken and independent but now he's just a tool.

[mejusthavingfun]

re: so it was pathetic and childish and desperate when mccain did it#7

Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:43am

This is Obama responding tactfully. It starts with the "celebrity" line but went right where it counts the lobbyists. It's not childish at all, it's rather smart, clear and to the point. Unlike the McCain ad this is actually coherent. There was a lot of evidence McCain's ad "worked" and several on this board were saying Obama better ramp it up. The problem in the past two presidential elections (besides the lousy nominees) was the Democratic response to these buzz words and 527 labels was pathetic.

Apparently on this board unless you support Hillary Clinton after she lost the nomination you're politically damned if you do damned if you don't.

[Reginald Tresilian]

re: so it was pathetic and childish and desperate when mccain did it#8

Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:50am

I actually don't find taking someone's weapon and turning it against them to be childish or pathetic.

That said, I don't think the "celebrity" stuff was the strongest part of the ad. But I do think that it'll go a long way toward effectively killing McCain's original ad.

[mejusthavingfun]

re: so it was pathetic and childish and desperate when mccain did it#9

Posted: 8/11/08 at 12:00pm

The entire thing is laughable. Where is the Republican party? If this is the best McCain can do I can't imagine what the next few months will be like. Paris Hilton killed this ad with one solid punch and her family was for the man.

Bring on the debates. Nothing like a McCain unscripted.

[kelzama]

re: so it was pathetic and childish and desperate when mccain did it#10

Posted: 8/11/08 at 4:09pm

Imitation, they say, is the highest form of flattery.

[madbrian]

re: so it was pathetic and childish and desperate when mccain did it#11

Posted: 8/11/08 at 4:19pm

I'm not crazy about the ad or the tactic. I hope they don't use it during the Olympics. I like the fact that Obama's ads in the Olympics so far have been positive.

I think the campaign has caved to pressure to respond in kind. They have responded rather quickly before, within a day or less, but this reponse is two weeks after McCain's.

"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

[tazber]

re: so it was pathetic and childish and desperate when mccain did it#12

Posted: 8/11/08 at 6:03pm

It reeks of "I'm rubber, you're glue..." schoolyard taunts.

....but the world goes 'round