the obama show
the obama show
the obama show#1
Posted: 6/24/09 at 10:42am
the natives are getting restless. the arrogance and disdain with which they are treated will eventually turn enough of them off to the point that the press corps will be disbanded and only those selcted by the white house will be allowed an audience with his holiness.
and not one question on iraq or afghanistan? in the face of mulitple bombings in iraq and the deadliest predator attack to date in afghanistan?
plants, and not the flowering kind
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
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re: the obama show#2
Posted: 6/24/09 at 11:04am
While Dana Milbank is not alone in showing contempt over this, he comes across as petulant and whiny. The fact is, the HuffPo reporter (Nico Pitney) has been scooping absolutely everyone on the events transpiring in Iran. In addition, though Pitney was sought out by Obama, the question was not a cream puff, and I don't think there's any indication that Obama had prior knwoledge of what the question would be.
re: the obama show#2
Posted: 6/24/09 at 11:50amin other words, we will tolerate no criticism of our god. he is all good and deserving of all our honor and worship. gotcha.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
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re: the obama show#3
Posted: 6/24/09 at 11:54amI thought the narrative was that Obama had the press in thrall?
re: the obama show#4
Posted: 6/24/09 at 11:58amthe majority of them yeah. but his natural contempt for everyone who is not him is shining through and the administration's disregard for even the barest veneer of decency toward anyone but the ugliest dictators and thugs has begun to wear on those who are graciously allowed in the same room with his gloriosity.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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re: the obama show#5
Posted: 6/24/09 at 11:59am
Shifting winds, Joe.
I happen to like Dana Milbank and I love a skeptical press - in every administration.
Updated On: 6/24/09 at 11:59 AM
re: the obama show#6
Posted: 6/24/09 at 12:22pm
I thought the Pitney situation, and basically asking him if he could find a way to ask a questions on behalf of the Iranian people, was smart. Pitney posted the possibility that he might be asked to present a question from an Iranian, and asked that questions be submitted so he could discern the right one to ask, if in fact he was going to be called on. He apparently asked one of the most common questions submitted.
I get that the beltway reporters are not happy, but they have also been way behind the curve on this issue, and Pitney and Sullivan have been amazing in reporting on events in Iran, and in culling/creating sources and contacts in Iran. A very thoughtful question about Iran was asked and a thoughtful answer provided. On Sullivan's blog, there is a poster that argues that this was a shrewd attempt at psychological warfare with the Iranian government - demonstrated that the US will answer questions, when their own leaders will not.
I sometimes like Milbank, and other times I don't, which is I guess about right.
re: the obama show#7
Posted: 6/24/09 at 12:34pm
he even snapped at helen thomas.
there is nothing this president will ever do to make us question him. ever.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
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re: the obama show#8
Posted: 6/24/09 at 12:49pmSo what's the point? I mean I know you got to rail at the guy cause he's undoing 8 years of neocon like so much raveled knitting, but really, what's the point? He took the question from the Huffpo guy and it was more interesting than the others. "The press has turned from lap dogs to attack dogs" is the new story? that's a good thing right? I mean, we could bring back the hustlers to ask why the other side doesn't love America.
re: the obama show#9
Posted: 6/24/09 at 12:55pm
the irony of huffpo having attacked the bush admin for allegedly planting questions now is being used by the obama administration to plant questions.
i know, i know, nothing to see here. when democrats do it it's completely different. i look forward to your justifying it when he declares martial law: "it's clearly necessary to preserve order and prevent the kind of chaos that too much freedom brings. anyone who is afraid of this clearly has something they are ashamed of. saint barry will take good care of his. he always keeps his promises and never, ever goes back on his word. i think it'll be nice not to have to bother with all those choices."
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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re: the obama show#10
Posted: 6/24/09 at 1:02pm
See, that's where you lose me. It is true that the WH told Pitney that he may be called on, in part because they wanted to answer a question from an Iranian.
The question itself was not a plant - he had no idea what it would be.
It was possible that Pitney would be called on, but no one vetted the question. If Obama wanted to answer a question from an Iranian about what is going on in Iran, do you have a better suggestion?
He could not let Pitney know that he might be called on if he wanted him to solicit questions.
Your hate for the POTUS is somewhere between comical and creepy.
re: the obama show#11
Posted: 6/24/09 at 1:29pm
hate? i hate no one. i think the real issue is the self-loathing you must repress everytime you apologize for or excuse or spin in walter duranty fashion another of the administration's grotesquely obvious flaws, failures, lies and or ciminal activities. i think you probably realize that you've become the very thing you supposed to loathe during the bush administration: a blind apologist who refuses to even consider that the administration might be something less than the greatest thing since sliced bread. i understand that such a realization must really, really hurt, ywiw, no matter how much you work to deny it and that you can only cope with it by projecting it onto others, so i can take it. i mean that's what friends are for: to be there when their friends realize that they have become the democrats' goth and roxy.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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re: the obama show#12
Posted: 6/24/09 at 1:40pm
Papa, to be fair, folks here have been very critical of Obama. But you're accusing them of planting questions, and that just didn't happen.
A much better critique of Obama is how he mishandled the question that tried equate the images of Neda with the torture photos that have been censored.
re: the obama show#13
Posted: 6/24/09 at 1:47pm
You really have me confused with someone or something else. I was a Clinton supporter, when voted for Obama because McCain was not a viable option.
Am I giving Obama some time to see what he does, yeah. He has been in office for about 4 months, and has multiple big old stinking piles of crap to try and address. I don't agree with all of the decisions he made, but I understand the logic behind it.
Do I approve of everything he has done, no. But, then I did not expect to agree with everything he says or does.
If, after the first couple of years he has implemented policies to address what I think are much needed changes he will not get my vote in 2012. It is as simple as that.
For the record, I have been relatively satisfied with his foreign policy activities to date.
But go ahead, put me in whatever category makes it easier for you to dismiss criticism of your nearly pathological desire to undermine/attack/marginalize him. I understand we did it to Bush - but that was after he screwed up so many things he earned the contempt. If in a couple if years is turns out that Obama is everything you claim him to be, I will turn around and say "papa told me so." It is possible, but in my opinion unlikely to happen.
And MB - facts don't get in the way of papa's perceptions. Somehow Pitney is the same is Jeff Gannon. I am not sure how he gets to that conclusion, but those are the facts as papa sees it.
Updated On: 6/24/09 at 01:47 PM
re: the obama show#14
Posted: 6/24/09 at 1:51pmgiven your pathological need for him to be right and succeed on every level, and your determination to deny any fact that happens to contradict that success, i'm sure you are of that opinion.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
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he was the gimmicky sort
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re: the obama show#15
Posted: 6/24/09 at 1:52pmBut this administration IS the greatest thing since sliced bread- or at least FDR. He's getting more done in 4 months than Bush did in eight years. The Republicans don't know whether to **** or go blind- so they are blindly ****ting everywhere they can. The guy gave one speech and democracy is breaking out in Iran. The Ayatollah had to give a speech saying ENGLAND was the problem because Obama is so popular among young Iranians. He's going after banking reform, financial reform, health care reform- good god, he got TOBACCO put under the FDA's purview. No wonder you're panicked.
re: the obama show#16
Posted: 6/24/09 at 1:53pmmb, i'm merely passing along the accepted opinion of the white house press corps that the white house uses liberal bloggers when it wants to plant questions.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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re: the obama show#17
Posted: 6/24/09 at 1:55pmi'm not panicked, joe. i believe that the united states can survive even barry and co's overt attempts to destroy the very foundations of the country. i do enjoy pointing things out along the way though on their downward spiral into oblivion.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
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re: the obama show#18
Posted: 6/24/09 at 1:56pm
"given your pathological need for him to be right and succeed on every level, and your determination to deny any fact that happens to contradict that success"
YWIW's posts, either today or in other threads, don't support your claim, papa.
re: the obama show#19
Posted: 6/24/09 at 1:57pmyou're wasting your time, q. i have an almost transparent knowledge of her soul.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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re: the obama show#20
Posted: 6/24/09 at 1:59pm
You're just funny.
I will admit, I want him to be right, because that will mean that things will get better quicker for many that are struggling.
But, other than wanting what is best for this nation I have no vested interest in Obama either way. If he cannot fix what ails us, then he can't.
I wanted Bush to be right about Iraq, even though I opposed the war. (I actually thought a month or so in "damn, maybe I was wrong, maybe he can pull this off"). Then it all feel apart.
Perhaps I react too strongly to your overzealous rants, but all I have vested in Obama is that I want him to succeed so this country succeeds. What we had been doing for the past 8 years was not working, and something had to change. Whether this is change for the better or worse, only time will tell. I am hoping that this is change for the better, and you clearly are assuming this is change for the worse.
EDIT: can someone send me some bleach for my soul - papa has been nearby and there is this sulfur smell now that won't go away.
Updated On: 6/24/09 at 01:59 PM
re: the obama show#21
Posted: 6/24/09 at 2:01pmnothing like a chris matthews line to lighten the mood, eh?
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
re: the obama show#23
Posted: 6/24/09 at 2:08pm...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
re: the obama show#24
Posted: 6/24/09 at 2:13pm
OK - I don't watch him much because I find him a wee bit insipid and too insidery (there also seems to be permanent spittle on his lip). He also hated Hillary about as much as Hitch and Sullivan did, so he got a wee bit long-toothed during the Primary.
Lately I haven't been watching much of anything on TV except NCIS reruns and some mob-up housewives flipping tables.
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