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warning signs of suicide
#50re: warning signs of suicide
Posted: 5/11/06 at 12:56pm
Right, Daydreamer, there are definitely other factors if these token "perfect people" do kill themselves. I was just sort of alluding to that almost-stereotype of the high school student who gets good grades, is preisdent of this and that, has a gorgeous car, a million friends, etc, etc -- it's not foolproof, at all.
I get the idea that many comments made here are a result of personal experience, on one side of it or the other. And obviously, every instance happens in a different way.
#51re: warning signs of suicide
Posted: 5/18/06 at 3:23pm
This is pretty detailed artcile on how one of the "best and brightest" still cannot sometimes overcome depression.
"Kyle Ambrogi couldn't get comfortable. He sat. He stood. He lay down. He grabbed a pillow and squeezed it as tightly as he could. Nothing settled his screaming nerves. Staring into Brad Martinez's eyes, bouncing off the walls of his friend's apartment that day this past August, Ambrogi couldn't explain the dark, numb feeling that was rotting his core. He couldn't organize his thoughts. He couldn't complete a sentence.
"You know, man," he'd begin, "I … just … feel … like …"
And then he'd stop. Each second brought more frustration, more pain. He began pulling chunks of hair out of his head, picking at tiny blemishes on his face. His body started to shake. His eyes began to tear up.
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Then he spoke.
"There's something," he told Martinez. "Something really bad. Last night, I stood on the South Street Bridge for an hour and a half … wondering if I should jump."
Martinez thought back to a month earlier, when Ambrogi asked Martinez if he'd be upset if he jumped off a high-rise. "Of course I would," Martinez had said that day. "I'd be friggin' pissed."
Maybe it wasn't such a shock. Maybe the signs were there, but still … Kyle? Ambrogi was acting so strangely, pacing back and forth, squeezing his head in his hands, unable to sit still, that Martinez feared Ambrogi might hurt himself. Here. Now.
"I'm stupid," Ambrogi said to Martinez. "I can't do anything right. I'm a terrible friend. I don't even know why you guys are friends with me."
Martinez couldn't comprehend any of it. Kyle Ambrogi was Mr. All-American, the high school football star from nearby St. Joe's Prep with the GQ-cover-boy looks, the artfully chiseled frame and the outgoing, ice-breaking personality. He was a running back on the Penn football team, a senior finance major with a 3.5 GPA in the prestigious Wharton business school and perhaps most impressive, the kid everyone else turned to for advice when feeling down.
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In three months, he would devolve from the kid with the commanding presence into an introverted loner. "A wallflower," Martinez says. What started as feelings of worthlessness culminated in front page news on Oct. 10, when Ambrogi shot himself in the head in his mother's Havertown, Pa., home."
It is a sad story, and reminds us all that depression is an equal opportunity disease.
Tragic Turn - Kyle Ambrogi
SweetQintheLights
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/12/05
#52re: warning signs of suicide
Posted: 5/18/06 at 3:45pm
HOLY F*CK!
My aunt taught him in elementry school!
HOLY F*CK!
#53re: warning signs of suicide
Posted: 5/18/06 at 4:43pm
I make it a point to be nice to every person I know, even if I don't like them. And I'm not trying to start anything, and I'm not talking about any person in particular.. but sometimes I see how mean people can be to other people on these boards, and it really makes me sad. You don't *know* the other person. You don't know what they go through, or how stable they are. When you have suisidal thoughts, someone being mean to you--someone who doesn't even know you--is just another thing to upset you and make you feel worthless and unloved.
Anyways, that's my two cents on the whole topic. I think that if people showed more compassion and empathy.. we would have less of these problems.
Updated On: 6/1/06 at 04:43 PM
SweetQintheLights
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/12/05
#54re: warning signs of suicide
Posted: 5/18/06 at 4:50pm
"You don't *know* the other person. You don't know what they go through, or how stable they are. When you have suisidal thoughts, someone being mean to you--someone who doesn't even know you--is just another thing to upset you and make you feel worthless and unloved."
Although unlikely, it could be the straw that breaks the camels back.
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