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1776 Previews Tonight#75

Posted: 3/31/16 at 1:45pm

They sang however confederate men last night, didn't they? Or was my mind playing trick? That was the original wording from the composers.

 

The original wording is "Cool, Cool, Conservative Men," per the interview in the program, but the lyric and title were changed to "considerate" before, I think, the show officially opened on Broadway. They were definitely singing "considerate" last night.


Nothing matters but knowing nothing matters. ~ Wicked
Everything in life is only for now. ~ Avenue Q
There is no future, there is no past. I live this moment as my last. ~ Rent

"He's a tramp, but I love him."
Updated On: 3/31/16 at 01:45 PM

1776 Previews Tonight#76

Posted: 3/31/16 at 1:54pm

I heard "conservative" twice and "considerate" once. I also heard one fluffed entrance from the horns, but other than that, all of the dissonance seemed to be written that way. The orchestration, I think, is meant to mirror the fractiousness of the combatants on stage -- or so I've always assumed. Particularly the final chords, which don't portend conventional harmony in the country. That's kind of the point of the show in some ways. And it certainly is playing out that way today, more than either the Founding Fathers or the authors of 1776 could have imagined. That's why I liked the modern clothes, the hoodie, the microphones, etc. I thought it made good connections between then (1776) the other then (1969) and now. 

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1776 Previews Tonight#77

Posted: 3/31/16 at 2:02pm

Here's an interesting 2001 LA Times article about the history of the song:

 

http://articles.latimes.com/2001/sep/07/entertainment/ca-42982

 


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1776 Previews Tonight#78

Posted: 3/31/16 at 2:54pm

I'm pretty sure this has been answered already, but the Encores production has an intermission, right?

The original Broadway production was performed without an intermission.

Subsequent productions, including the first national tour that I saw at the ripe old age of eight, had one, as I recall. And when I did the show in the '80s, we had an intermission as well.


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1776 Previews Tonight#79

Posted: 3/31/16 at 2:56pm

Yup, there's an intermission after "Mama, Look Sharp."

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1776 Previews Tonight#80

Posted: 3/31/16 at 3:08pm

I can't imagine it without an intermission- it's not a short show.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

1776 Previews Tonight#81

Posted: 3/31/16 at 3:29pm

Last night it ran about 2:50.

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1776 Previews Tonight#82

Posted: 3/31/16 at 9:06pm

I just wanted to correct myself: they do in fact sing "conservative" at least once, in the final climactic verse.


Nothing matters but knowing nothing matters. ~ Wicked
Everything in life is only for now. ~ Avenue Q
There is no future, there is no past. I live this moment as my last. ~ Rent

"He's a tramp, but I love him."

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1776 Previews Tonight#83

Posted: 3/31/16 at 9:57pm

I saw it in the round once and really enjoyed it for it made the piece more interactive. It would work well on a three quarter thrust as well. The staging of this interpretation seemed a bit flat.

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1776 Previews Tonight#84

Posted: 4/1/16 at 7:12am

2 hrs. 50 min. is long for 1776 even with an intermission. Sounds like they need to pick up their cues.

Should be more like 2 1/2 or maybe 2:40 with intermission. Without would be more like 2:15 or 2:20.

The biggest thing I remember during rehearsals was that long non-musical scene in Act 1, which is roughly 40 minutes without a song. We got that timing down like a fine-tuned instrument. That's the stretch that can either make or break the show as far as pacing goes.

 

EDIT: I found this, confirming that the Broadway production was performed with no intermission:

When the production opened, there was no intermission. About 10 minutes before performance time, an announcement would be heard through the speakers warning the audience that the running time of the show was more than two hours and there was no intermission so they should now do whatever they needed to do before the performance started.

An intermission was added for the national tour and for the London production. It was placed after "Momma, Look Sharp." To their surprise, the creative team found that they preferred the show with an intermission, and an intermission was soon added to the Broadway production.

Link


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1776 Previews Tonight#85

Posted: 4/1/16 at 7:26am

My guess is that the reason they started with no intermission was concern over keeping the tension sustained throughout the show, where everyone in the audience already knows the outcome.

The good news is that the material is so strong, it can stand a bathroom and cocktail break in the middle (and a breather) and still hold people's interest and focus for the remainder of the show. It's that well written and that good.

Once they figured that out and trusted the material, they added the intermission.


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Updated On: 4/1/16 at 07:26 AM

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1776 Previews Tonight#86

Posted: 4/1/16 at 7:48am

We easily sit through 2.5 hour movies (although movie theatre seats are generally vastly more confortable than live theatre seats). I prefer Follies and Pippin without an intermission, too, but it requires the actors to pick it up and abandon much-loved pauses.

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1776 Previews Tonight#87

Posted: 4/1/16 at 8:22am

 

I prefer the old three-act plays with two intermissions. They gave you a beginning, a middle, and an end--and two chances to get a drink or go to the bathroom. Much more civilized..

George S. Kaufman once wrote that the key to a perfect three-act structure was that in Act One you get the protagonist up a tree, in Act Two you throw rocks at him, and in Act Three you get the poor son-of-a-bitch back down.

 


1776 Previews Tonight#88

Posted: 4/1/16 at 9:38am

"The cast was excellent from top to bottom, but the true standout was Santino. I was perplexed when they announced his casting and not only were my fears put to rest, but every expectation was extraordinarily exceeded. From piddling and twiddling to running through cupid's grove to every Good God and Incredible he was simply magnificent tackling this mammoth role.  It's not only one of the best Encores performances I've seen, it's one of the best male performances I've seen in New York in the past five years. Bravo!"

 

Whizzer, this made me so excited to see this tonight. Thanks! It has been a joy watching Santino's career growth.

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1776 Previews Tonight#89

Posted: 4/1/16 at 10:02am

Heck, Nicholas Nickleby was so long you got a dinner break between acts! At 8 1/2 hours there was a 10-minute break in the first half, a 1 hour dinner break, then another 10-minute break in the middle of the second act.

Time still flew by, though. I still remember the first time I saw the show (in Cleveland), when the lights came up for the first break the lady sitting in front of me looked at her companion and said, "That's been two hours already?!"  She couldn't believe it. The story was that engrossing.

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1776 Previews Tonight#90

Posted: 4/1/16 at 3:14pm

PalJoey said: "I prefer the old three-act plays with two intermissions. They gave you a beginning, a middle, and an end--and two chances to get a drink or go to the bathroom. Much more civilized.."

 

I'm with you on that. Some people nowadays seem to think going to a play is a kind of ordeal to be gotten through as quickly as possible. For me, it's a pleasure to be relished and lingered over. I love intermissions, talking to my companions or the strangers sitting next to me, having a cocktail, etc. And afterwards, I always want to go out for a drink to talk at length about what I just saw. Why the rush to get back home to the old grind again?

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1776 Previews Tonight#91

Posted: 4/1/16 at 4:38pm

I saw this last night and it was such a pleasure! Santino really knocks it out of the park as Adams -- his singing was beautiful, and his physicality was great at conveying frustration, energy, love, in different scenes. I agree with some of the reviews in that the only possible flaw in his performance was that he's almost too likeable as Adams!  He and Christiane Noll have great chemistry as John and Abigail; their duets were a real highlight.

I was also impressed with how many of the supporting cast in smaller roles really stuck out to me and made their characters memorable; you really get the sense that you've been spending time getting to know all these men as individuals.

For me, John Laroquette was fine but didn't bring anything particularly new to Franklin, but that role is so well written that it stands on its own.  Having only seen the movie, I was wondering where the act break would fall, and to me it seemed odd that it came only after "Look Sharp" -- seemed pretty far into the show -- but I can also see where ending Act I on "Cool Considerate Men" then leaves you with a more downbeat opener with "Look Sharp."  Though maybe my issue in general has always been with "Look Sharp"; it's a poignant song that introduces an important glimpse of the realities of the war going on far outside this room, but I also feel like it slows/stops the momentum of the show.

But this show is a must-see for the performance Santino gives! A masterpiece, I say... :)

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1776 Previews Tonight#92

Posted: 4/1/16 at 5:21pm

shanphelia said: "Having only seen the movie, I was wondering where the act break would fall, and to me it seemed odd that it came only after "Look Sharp" -- seemed pretty far into the show -- but I can also see where ending Act I on "Cool Considerate Men" then leaves you with a more downbeat opener with "Look Sharp."  Though maybe my issue in general has always been with "Look Sharp"; it's a poignant song that introduces an important glimpse of the realities of the war going on far outside this room, but I also feel like it slows/stops the momentum of the show."

It definitely was pretty far into the show.  Not that I was bored, but I found myself wondering where the act break was going to fall; I haven't seen a stage production in over a decade, so I couldn't remember.

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1776 Previews Tonight#93

Posted: 4/1/16 at 5:24pm

There isn't a very good place in the show for it. The logic for it falling after "Mama, Look Sharp" is clear- we have the cliffhanger of sorts of Adams and Franklin going to New Brunswick, we have Dickinson affirming his intransigence with the rest of the obstructionist delegates. However, the act break can't happen immediately after Adams and Franklin leave because there's nothing there to end an act on. It can't happen after "Cool, Considerate Men," because that song informs and transitions into "Mama, Look Sharp." So, by default, it sort of has to go after that number.

 

Another testament to odd structure of the show!


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

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1776 Previews Tonight#94

Posted: 4/1/16 at 5:32pm

Kad said: "Another testament to odd structure of the show!"

Very true! It's so interesting how the show bends and breaks conventions!

I can see the logic behind the original staging without an intermission, given the build of tension, but not sure I could make it all the way through the show without a break.  As it was, several people (including a gentleman in the row in front of me) had to get up and leave before the first act ended, which was a bit disruptive, but I know sometimes can't be helped if act 1 is close to 90 minutes (I believe it was about 9:25 when it hit).

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1776 Previews Tonight#95

Posted: 4/1/16 at 5:50pm

Act 1 is closer to 2 hours. The show began at 7:30.


Nothing matters but knowing nothing matters. ~ Wicked
Everything in life is only for now. ~ Avenue Q
There is no future, there is no past. I live this moment as my last. ~ Rent

"He's a tramp, but I love him."

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1776 Previews Tonight#96

Posted: 4/2/16 at 1:03am

I still wish they had done it in full costume and the actors had been less reliant on the scripts. I realize script holding is a staple of Encores but I guess I have been spoiled due to very limited script usage in more recent productions. I felt at times I was watching a rehearsal. Santino does carry the show like a Trooper. If he tap dances Roundabout should bring back the George M Cohan musical and have him star in it. And the actor paying Jefferson is quite handsome.

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1776 Previews Tonight#97

Posted: 4/2/16 at 6:21am

Smoothlover, they were almost completely off-script last night. 

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1776 Previews Tonight#98

Posted: 4/2/16 at 6:29am

Regarding the tension of the show, I remember reading a story about the original production which mentioned that despite the fact that everyone knew how it came out, the show still had a strong air of suspense to it. During one performance, in the anxious latter part of the second act, one woman in the audience leaned to her companion and asked in a nervous voice, "Do you think they'll sign it?"

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1776 Previews Tonight#99

Posted: 4/3/16 at 12:02am

I echo all the words of praise posted by Kad and Whizzer.   I absolutely loved it -- and was tearing up and holding my breath as the votes were being cast and the bells were ringing.   The audience burst out in full applause when Dr. Hall moved Georgia to the Yay column.  It was thrilling.  

The contemporary dress worked for me in a powerful way, connecting the past with our conversations and issues today.   I wouldn't change a thing.  

I've long loved 1776 and tonight was an incredible celebration of it.  


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