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A LES MISERABLES "What if...?" question for discussion

neddyfrank2
#25re: A LES MISERABLES 'What if...?' question for discussion
Posted: 6/25/06 at 4:25pm

I don't think so. I really think that Jean Valjean would have wanted to but, be to scared of what it would have meant for her and him. Like if JAVERT had found him, then Fantine would have been left alone.

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CurtainUp
#26re: A LES MISERABLES 'What if...?' question for discussion
Posted: 6/25/06 at 5:53pm

I HEARD Valjean was Christ from my English teacher, but I decided to stray because there is actually a lot of supporting evidence for Fantine. That's what I love about Lit: nobody's really right or wrong.


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jasonf
#27re: A LES MISERABLES 'What if...?' question for discussion
Posted: 6/25/06 at 6:30pm

If Fantine were intended as a Christ figure, wouldn't that be more controversial than the Davinci Code? Not just a woman, but a prostitute...? No way...


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#28re: A LES MISERABLES 'What if...?' question for discussion
Posted: 6/25/06 at 7:47pm

She suffered for her child like Christ suffered for his children...it's not really vivid in the musical, but I found it to be in the novel.
A stretch? Well, I got a few pages out of it for an in-class essay, and just to boast, an A at that re: A LES MISERABLES 'What if...?' question for discussion


Rosencrantz: "Be happy - if you're not even HAPPY what's so good about surviving? We'll be all right. I suppose we just go on." - from Tom Stoppard's Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead
Updated On: 6/25/06 at 07:47 PM

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StageManager2
#29re: A LES MISERABLES 'What if...?' question for discussion
Posted: 6/26/06 at 9:10am

I thought Valjean fell in love with Cosette (after she grew up, of course). That's why he was jealous of Marius.


Salve, Regina, Mater misericordiae
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia

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jasonf
#30re: A LES MISERABLES 'What if...?' question for discussion
Posted: 6/26/06 at 10:15am

I suppose a case could be made for it, but I'd be surprised if Hugo intended that...it still seems like a stretch. Believe me, I spent YEARS in school stretching half baked ideas into papers. It's part of what makes me a good teacher - being able to see through all that in a kids' writing. :)

I'm not saying it's impossible, but I think it's reading something that's not necessarily intentionally there.


Hi, Shirley Temple Pudding.

SporkGoddess
#31re: A LES MISERABLES 'What if...?' question for discussion
Posted: 6/26/06 at 1:08pm

See, that is what happened, but it's not that simple. Valjean had never experienced any sort of love, whether romantic or not. When he raises Cosette he comes to experience love for the first time--love in all of its forms: love for family, romantic love, you name it. He's basically experiencing emotions in his 50's that he would have experienced as a young child and a teenager, but couldn't because he was too busy pruning trees and taking on odd jobs to feed Jeanne and her family.


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theminutepast
#32re: A LES MISERABLES 'What if...?' question for discussion
Posted: 6/26/06 at 1:25pm

Oh, come on. Of course not! There is no basis for a romance seeing as they knew each other for a day or two (it's difficult to tell time in Les Mis). Fantine admires Valjean, yes, but she knows nothing more about him than his good deeds. When Valjean sings "our time is running out," he means that he cannot stay to see how her health progresses and that he cannot return with Cosette (he didn't know she was that close to death). He really only says this because he wants to tell her he will take care of Cosette but get out of the hospital quickly before Javert arrives.

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coolphantom919
#33re: A LES MISERABLES 'What if...?' question for discussion
Posted: 7/1/06 at 7:28pm

re: A LES MISERABLES 'What if...?' question for discussion

If Fantine had lived, would she and Valjean have gone on to build a life together?


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