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A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)

A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)

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James2
#0A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 1:27pm

I thought of some more symbolism in the revival. In Act Two, the pouring of the blood from one bucket to another symbolizes a body falling from Sweeney's shop to the basement (that is, for all deaths except Fogg's and Mrs. Lovett's). I don't know if someone else posted this, but it's something I wanted to share.


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bwayondabrain
#1re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 1:34pm

i never thought of it that way
i was too busy staring at Patti's facial expression and her lips...
:P
interesting observation, though...

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MargoChanning
#2re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 2:22pm

It has nothing to do with bodies falling.

Pouring blood into buckets has been used simply to symbolize killing on stage for years in many previous productions by many previous directors. It's a particular favorite at the Watermill Theatre (UK) where Doyle has worked for years. He and fellow director Edward Hall have incorporated into various productions through the years. I saw Hall use it two seasons ago in his ROSE RAGE which was a reduction of Shakespeare's HENRY VI plays into a single evening event which played here at The Duke on 42nd Street after having had acclaimed runs at the Watermill and the West End.


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TomMonster
#3re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 2:47pm

Also they didn't want the VERY expensive instruments to get soiled! Same reason for the smocks already covered in blood instead of the razor squirt gun used in the original.


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BroadwayChica
#4re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 2:49pm

Margo's right, of course. In the context of Sweeney Todd, blood is poured whenever a character dies (with one exception), regardless of whether or not they "fall down" It's nothing more than a stylistic way to represent death.

Updated On: 8/19/06 at 02:49 PM

Unknown User
#5re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 3:03pm

What do you suppose happened to Mr. Lovett?

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TomMonster
#7re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 3:14pm

Hard to be a Mrs. without the Mr!


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bwayondabrain
#8re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 3:16pm

yeah, i think she had a husband, but he passed away
it couldnt have been Sweeney though because he was off in Australia...
:P

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BroadwayChica
#9re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 3:25pm

There's only one line referencing Mrs Lovett's husband:

Mrs Lovett: You know, it's seventeen years this Whitsun since my poor Albert passed on. I don't see why I shouldnt be married in white, do you?

As to what happened to him, it's not specified, and probably irrelevant.

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Ready 2 Defy Gravity
#10re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 3:42pm

Okay how does Mrs Lovett die in the revival?

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BroadwayChica
#11re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 3:44pm

**SPOILER**

Sweeney sits her on the chair, and slashes her repeatedly with his razor.

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Ready 2 Defy Gravity
#12re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 3:46pm

ahhh thanks, still confused about it, could you personal message me with some more details please?

SweeneyPhanatic
#13re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 3:57pm

I'd also like more details on Mrs. Lovett's death. Please PM me as well.


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BroadwayChica
#14re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 4:05pm

PMs sent :)

Unknown User
#15re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 4:32pm

I KNOW its irrelevant, thats why its fun to speculate about it!

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roseaddams
#16re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 9:04pm

If you could also PM me about Mrs. Lovett's death, I'd appreciate it.


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singingwendy
#17re: A Thought About Sweeney (Spoilers)
Posted: 8/19/06 at 9:07pm

Was it just me, or did it seem that with each killing there was more blood to be poured in the bucket? Almost as if adding up the horrors of his crime and how much further he was going......


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