ALNM. not too bad! Not too good either. — Page 2
#27
Posted: 12/9/09 at 6:39pm
#28
Posted: 12/9/09 at 6:54pm
It looks so nice!!!!
Thanks, bwaylvsong!
Thanks, bwaylvsong!
#29
Posted: 12/9/09 at 6:59pm
GO**AMMIT! JUST when I close the book on this they have to put up that vid.
::SIGH::
Guess I better start counting out 14,000 pennies.
P
::SIGH::
Guess I better start counting out 14,000 pennies.
P
#30
Posted: 12/9/09 at 9:59pm
wow! Frederik sings the crap out of that!
#31
Posted: 12/11/09 at 5:24am
For anyone who thinks Alex Hanson CANNOT sing, have a listen to him as Khashoggi on the OLC of We Will Rock you.
The guy is supreme and wouldn't have made it this far in a career if he couldn't sing.
Seven Seas of Rhye: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PodSyrEpAPg
A Kind of Magic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzYBE7VgCfc
Enjoy,
Tim
The guy is supreme and wouldn't have made it this far in a career if he couldn't sing.
Seven Seas of Rhye: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PodSyrEpAPg
A Kind of Magic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzYBE7VgCfc
Enjoy,
Tim
I will climb back up that mountain!
#32
Posted: 12/11/09 at 7:20am
I like Alex Hanson's voice a lot. I haven't seen the production, but I've seen clips, and heard him sing other things, and I think he has a very West End sound to his voice that contrasts a bit with the very Broadway sound of Lazar and the other cast members. It's the more organic, more colorful, less pitch-perfect sound that you tend to hear more from West End performers than that perfectly honed, superbly-trained Broadway sound-- both of which are perfectly good.
In my pants, she has burst like the music of angels, the light of the sun! --Marius Pantsmercy
#33
Posted: 12/11/09 at 11:05am
more organic? what does that mean? I love when "theater type people" throw that word around.
So by your definition more organic means "flat or sharp"?
So by your definition more organic means "flat or sharp"?
#34
Posted: 12/11/09 at 11:10am
he cannot hold out any notes. And when he does his vibrato sounds completely forced and uncontrolled.
Yes he can scream on pitch, so can almost all humans. That doesn't make them a broadway claliber singer. Play me something where he actually holds out a phrase. OR gives my dynamic change. Maybe a CRESCENDO if possible.
That is not a "supreme" broadway singer. You going to compare him to len cariou? come on. Just be reasonable.
Singing is more than just hitting a note o pitch. But maybe in this "elphaba", American Idol world we live in, maybe that's all it has become nowadays. It's called phrasing, dynamic change, control, elongation of vowels, timbre..ugh..why even explain anymore
Yes he can scream on pitch, so can almost all humans. That doesn't make them a broadway claliber singer. Play me something where he actually holds out a phrase. OR gives my dynamic change. Maybe a CRESCENDO if possible.
That is not a "supreme" broadway singer. You going to compare him to len cariou? come on. Just be reasonable.
Singing is more than just hitting a note o pitch. But maybe in this "elphaba", American Idol world we live in, maybe that's all it has become nowadays. It's called phrasing, dynamic change, control, elongation of vowels, timbre..ugh..why even explain anymore
#35
Posted: 12/11/09 at 11:31am
I agree with Schmerg. Alex can definitely sing.
And I'm really hoping to see this!
And I'm really hoping to see this!
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#36
Posted: 12/11/09 at 3:18pm
Singing is more than just hitting a note o pitch. But maybe in this "elphaba", American Idol world we live in, maybe that's all it has become nowadays. It's called phrasing, dynamic change, control, elongation of vowels, timbre..ugh..why even explain anymore
Well, honestly, the phrasing and timbre of Hanson's voice is what I really appreciate about it. No, his vibrato is not always controlled (reminds me a bit of Tim Curry or Michael Ball's vibrato), but there's a richness and a zestiness to his tone that is pleasing to listen to-- like the aforementioned two dudes.
And that's what's missing in what you're calling the 'Elphaba' style singing that is entirely about pitch. I think we're actually in agreement on that matter, that what's lauded as 'great singing' today is little more than soulless-sounding yelling. But I wouldn't accuse Hanson or Lazar of that any day.
I have no idea what I meant by 'organic' there, though, haha. I don't even remember writing that. I guess I just mean that Lazar's voice is more controlled, and Hanson's is more free.
Well, honestly, the phrasing and timbre of Hanson's voice is what I really appreciate about it. No, his vibrato is not always controlled (reminds me a bit of Tim Curry or Michael Ball's vibrato), but there's a richness and a zestiness to his tone that is pleasing to listen to-- like the aforementioned two dudes.
And that's what's missing in what you're calling the 'Elphaba' style singing that is entirely about pitch. I think we're actually in agreement on that matter, that what's lauded as 'great singing' today is little more than soulless-sounding yelling. But I wouldn't accuse Hanson or Lazar of that any day.
I have no idea what I meant by 'organic' there, though, haha. I don't even remember writing that. I guess I just mean that Lazar's voice is more controlled, and Hanson's is more free.
In my pants, she has burst like the music of angels, the light of the sun! --Marius Pantsmercy
#37
Posted: 12/11/09 at 7:56pm
Massofmen, do you try to be as much of a ****as possible when you put forward your argument on these message boards?
I will climb back up that mountain!
#38
Posted: 12/11/09 at 11:19pm
Schmerg,
more free? I don't see how that makes any sense at all.
A "free-er" voice? So by your estimation, rex harrison would have the most free voice?
I am confused.
more free? I don't see how that makes any sense at all.
A "free-er" voice? So by your estimation, rex harrison would have the most free voice?
I am confused.
#39
Posted: 12/12/09 at 9:07am
By 'free,' I mean the way that people sing in the shower, haha. You can't say that's not a valid term to describe a style of singing, since I've seen 'freely' written on countless pieces of sheet music. Rex Harrison really kind of talk/croaked his way through his pieces, so I don't see how that applies at all, since 'freely' implies that you're singing without restraint. But that's cool, it's hard to describe vocal qualities in words.
In my pants, she has burst like the music of angels, the light of the sun! --Marius Pantsmercy
#40
Posted: 12/12/09 at 9:45am
yes it is.
I think i understand your point. Maybe that he is "acting" the song more than the others.
I dunno, I just mis having a Frederik who will elongate a sound with vibrato and control. This frederik maybe did it once or twice and when it was done was hurtful to my ears.
Thats all. A difference of opinion. :)
I think i understand your point. Maybe that he is "acting" the song more than the others.
I dunno, I just mis having a Frederik who will elongate a sound with vibrato and control. This frederik maybe did it once or twice and when it was done was hurtful to my ears.
Thats all. A difference of opinion. :)
#41
Posted: 12/12/09 at 10:13am
Some interesting points on this board. Makes me eager to see this show this week. While it seems there may be some negatives, there also seem to be enough positive things about the show to make it very worthwhile. Besides, Sondheim + Lansbury can of course add up to some pretty great musical theater. I hope Catherine Zeta Jones is good. She looks amazingly beautiful in all of the photos.
#42
Posted: 12/12/09 at 11:33am
if you go in not knowing anything about the production and how amazing it could be done, you will like it.
The show has one of the best written books and scores ever and if you have never seen Ms. Lansbury, it will be a treat.
If you know anything about the show and acting and singing, and phrasing, you will be very disappointed. Petra destroys a beautiful song that had so much beautiful nuance, and every other actor tries to accomplish the same with their songs but only slightly come up short of destroying the piece.
The show has one of the best written books and scores ever and if you have never seen Ms. Lansbury, it will be a treat.
If you know anything about the show and acting and singing, and phrasing, you will be very disappointed. Petra destroys a beautiful song that had so much beautiful nuance, and every other actor tries to accomplish the same with their songs but only slightly come up short of destroying the piece.
#43
Posted: 12/12/09 at 10:29pm
Hmm....Well, I've only seen the show once many years ago, and it was not a particularly good production, so hopefully I will get something out of this experience. How is "Every Day A Little Death?"
#44
Posted: 12/13/09 at 10:21pm
every day a little death seems apropos to the audience member watching it.
since ms. Davie doesn't understand what sarcasm is or how to play a line honestly the song withers and dies.
Charlotte needs to be what anne is going to be 20 yrs from now unless she changes her path. And Anne is what charlotte was 20 yrs prior.
Too bad they play almost the exact same intention and tactic in the song. Kudos Trevor you screwed this song up as well.
since ms. Davie doesn't understand what sarcasm is or how to play a line honestly the song withers and dies.
Charlotte needs to be what anne is going to be 20 yrs from now unless she changes her path. And Anne is what charlotte was 20 yrs prior.
Too bad they play almost the exact same intention and tactic in the song. Kudos Trevor you screwed this song up as well.
#45
Posted: 12/13/09 at 10:22pm
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