Academy Award Winning Film ONCE Comes to Broadway in 2010/2011 Season- Page 2

[scott68]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 6:26pm

I love the movie, and while I'm not super-optimistic about this, I think it could work out interestingly. That said, this MUST MUST MUST be at Circle in the Square.

[barcelona20]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 6:27pm

All I know is history shows that small musicals do not work well on Broadway. A small cast is not the only factor, as the source material for both ACA and TOS in my opinion were not very strong.

In my opinion, it's just hard to envision a stage show of this without the lead performers, whom I think much of the success to the film is owed.

[LePetiteFromage]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 6:27pm

Updated On: 5/1/09 at 06:27 PM

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 6:33pm

I am deeply and profoundly sorry that I offended you so.

I know that some just hate it when I poo poo on negativity. Some want their negativity and eat it, too! And, I realize I have no right to state my opinion about said negativity.

I just want to encourage people to be more supportive of the artform and of bold or out of the box ideas. It's a general discussion not limited to Once or ACA.

And I stand by my belief that if there's place for one person and two person plays on Broadway, there's a place for those kinds of musicals as well. If Once ends up being a glorious piece with rave reviews, it will find it's audience whether on 45th St or the Village.

Updated On: 10/16/08 at 06:33 PM

[LePetiteFromage]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 6:42pm

Updated On: 5/1/09 at 06:42 PM

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 6:45pm

And, I already said that everyone is allowed their opinion.

But if it's not bold or out of the box, why is it difficult to see it being possible? That seems like an inconsistency.

I choose to see the possibilities. I ask how can we make this work. Not--oh this will never work.

[sroderick2]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 6:53pm

It's not bold to take a movie (even a musical one) and put it on the stage, but the movie itself was bold. It was a different kind of movie musical, and it went above and beyond its expectations. If a stage production is done right (IMO), it'll be genuine, intimate and full of heart. As for success, name recognition will be a big help, and Off-Broadway is a good place to start.

Personally, I almost fell asleep watching the movie, but I think this could turn out to be a really beautiful rock musical. God knows we need more musicals like that.

Also, on a side note: anyone else wondering what Marketa Irglova and Glen Hasard think of this proposal?

[LePetiteFromage]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 7:09pm

Updated On: 5/1/09 at 07:09 PM

[dalefully]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 7:58pm

Wow...I'm madly in love with the movie, and mostly I think that this could be either absolutely fantastic or absolutely horrible. I'm hoping for the former. Also, 2010/11 is a long time from now, there's a pretty good chance that the idea will get scrapped by then.
Updated On: 10/16/08 at 07:58 PM

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 8:26pm

"And again, it doesn't matter what "we" think, "we" won't be doing anything to make the musical, so being critical isn't doing any harm to the artform. When the producers pull the plug on a show before it hits theaters because of a message board, then there's room to talk."

I never said anything to the contrary.

[LePetiteFromage]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 8:44pm

Updated On: 5/1/09 at 08:44 PM

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 8:49pm

Yes. I come here to discuss the artform and the one group that might be affected by these discussions is the young people who create theatre, whether as writers, producers, directors etc. And, I fancy the notion that anything is possible. And I seek to encourage that. I'm sorry if my positivity is a rain on your parade.

And criticism is not a valid comparison. Either way, I agree that criticism (not nastiness) is vital to the quality of theatre. Pooping on ideas before one has had a chance to prove themselves is a waste of energy and a terrible way to think. I M H O.

Updated On: 10/16/08 at 08:49 PM

Posted: 10/16/08 at 8:54pm

there is a place for a beautiful, SIMPLE touching story as "once". at $130 a ticket in a thousand seat house. I don't think so.

Being idealistic about theater is nice. and sweet and fun. But at the end of the day it's a business. HUNDREDS of people's job revolve around the work of a bway show. not just performers, techies, directors, etc...but more....marketing, publicity, house staff, etc...a show like "once", though beautiful...will STATISTICALLY not do well.

not trying to poo-poo.

[LePetiteFromage]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 9:00pm

Updated On: 5/1/09 at 09:00 PM

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 9:00pm

But if it got the kinds of reviews as say August: Osage County or any other recent megahit, you'd pay that amount most likely.

"Being idealistic about theater is nice. and sweet and fun. But at the end of the day it's a business. HUNDREDS of people's job revolve around the work of a bway show. not just performers, techies, directors, etc...but more....marketing, publicity, house staff, etc..."

And backstage doormen like myself. I'm not ignorant of what goes on. I've watched hits and flops up close and personal. Very personal.

August Wilson plays flop on Broadway. Thank God there are people brave enough to mount them anyway.

Posted: 10/16/08 at 9:02pm

ok. you win. i guess that's what you want to hear.

aaaahhh message boards.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 9:05pm

Oh good grief, Mercades. Good grief. It's not about winning.

I already know I'm right.

"Discussion involves both positive and negative viewpoints. A "discussion" that only allows the positive is no discussion at all. "

I never said otherwise. I merely voiced my opinions. Good grief to you, too.

[LePetiteFromage]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 9:05pm

Updated On: 5/1/09 at 09:05 PM

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 9:09pm

"Which only proves that it doesn't matter what is said on message boards like this one, so the only reason to come here and try to invalid other people's opinions is well, personal."

Oh now we are stretching. I'm sorry, but I'm not in here advocating for people to no longer have opinions. This is a message board. People share their opinions and even opinions of opinions. This is a discussion on the art form for me. It's not personal. It's not an issue for the ACLU.

"Why are you in the Vanities thread defending that one, since people are expressing the same concerns voiced here."

Because I never clicked on that thread. I clicked on this thread. It all starts with initial interest in the topic.

"BTW - Do you decided whether or not to see movies based on the trailer? "

I take in a number of considerations when I see something. But guess what--we're not talking about seeing the movie based on the trailer. We're talking about whether or not the film should be made at all.

[LePetiteFromage]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 9:22pm

Updated On: 5/1/09 at 09:22 PM

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 9:30pm

"saying they're incapable of thinking. Of course you don't mind opinions, so long as they're the same as yours. "

If I thought they were incapable of thinking, I wouldn't try to get them to think in a different way. Would I? We all express our opinions in hopes to change someone's opinion. I don't speak just to hear myself talk. Sometimes, I learn from others' opinions, so I welcome differing opinions. And at the end of it all, you have to agree to disagree. And that's all good.

"Why don't you support Vantities? It's a small, three person musical that's coming to Broadway. If you're truly about the art form and helping such shows shouldn't you be interested in all of them, not just the ones you choose. "

Now, you are getting snarky. I'm not about to go into every thread on this board and fight every fight. Good. Grief.

"It's the same thing, you're forming an opinion before seeing the final product, whether it's a movie trailer or just an idea. People decide whether or not to see a show or movie based on such things all the time. "

Nope. Not the same. The entire point I was making here is that if people have an idea and want to try, bravo.

[LePetiteFromage]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 9:44pm

Updated On: 5/1/09 at 09:44 PM

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 9:51pm

I didn't insult anyone. I may have insulted an attitude. There's a difference.

No, no, your bringing up Vanities is an attempt to make me out to be a hypocrite or something.

For the third time, people are allowed their opinions. And, I don't care if someone disliked Once and doesn't want to see it on stage. I was referring to anyone who thought it shouldn't be done. Shouldn't be attempted. They have a right to that opinion. I have a right to mine.

This conversation is now getting circular and becoming more of a fight, and I'm not interested in fighting with you. You can take me at my word or not.

[Sauja]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 10:05pm

Y'all are annoying. Why can't people disagree without a pile on? I'd personally love to hear what the people who did the music for Once could do to put together a musical score. But I would absolutely not want to see the movie itself turned into said musical. Why? Because I fear that whoever made it would think the material was too whisper-thin to hold up on stage and would add to it unnecessarily, thus reducing the overall impact. I mean, at 85 minutes, I thought the move could have shaved off a little time and been more successful. But the chances someone is going to do a 70 or 75 minute show? Slim to none.

Completely off topic, but JRB, the trouble with tossing out shows as examples of why small musicals work or why movies-to-musicals work is that not only are you selecting a very small selection and thus ignoring the percentage of both those things that fail, but you're also depending on having people agree with your taste. Though I do agree that there are stunning musicals that are very short and contained, I actually don't like three of the four you mentioned. I think you'd gain legitimacy by stating your opinions and opinions and making your arguments for positivity in a more positive way.

[LePetiteFromage]

Posted: 10/16/08 at 10:06pm

Updated On: 5/1/09 at 10:06 PM