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#1

Accepted to CAP21????

I know there are plenty of messages about cap21, so if your going to complain, save your breath....

anyway, I was wondering if anyone here has been accepted to the CAP21 Pre College program for this summer???(2005)

And...is the program worth the price??

thanks
#2

re: Accepted to CAP21????

You may be making a mistake by doing this.
#4

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I'm curious as to why this might be a mistake.
#5

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CAP21 is a musical theatre progam.
#6

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Yes, I know. I know all about the program and stuff. But why is it a mistake to post about it here?
#7

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PSA: Don't listen to bronxboundexpess. Ever. Not to a single word (s)he says.

Thank you and have a nice day.
#8

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hmmm....alrighty then....so does anyone have any info/?? anyone going this summer??
#9

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Oh, no. It's not a mistake to post about it. People need to be aware of this program that leads people to lives of poverty and uneducatedness.
#11

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bronxboundexpress....shhhhh....go talk on another board....

does anyone have useful info!!
#13

re: Accepted to CAP21????

It's the BEST thing ANYONE can do. I did it last summer and will be back again for Professional Program Credit. I had the best summer of my entire life. 16 Girls in one group and all 16 of us are still as close as can be..we talk everyday and they fly in to NYC for meetups for christmas and just last week. The teaching was fantastic, the support just everything was more then you could pay.
#15

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the dance classes are as well as the vocal tech classes but, depending on your placement audition & how many guys are IN the program determines if your acting,vocal performance,musical scene study class will be mixed or not.
#17

re: Accepted to CAP21????

i'm a a little confused about bronxboundexpress...

see, the thing that i don't get is, if you're posting on this board, you must like broadway/theatre in general. in order to perform at that level of theatre, you have to have a lot of training. in order to get training, you have to participate in programs (such as the CAP21 one, but not limited to it) - whether college, conservatory, or summer training.

i guess i just don't understand why you don't want people to get better at something that i'm under the impression that you appreciate.

(sorry for the major thread-jacking...i just really AM confused!)
"grace, you're stuffed in a box getting rid of ass plaque. let's face it, this evening is a bust."
#18

re: Accepted to CAP21????

College is for study and getting an education. It's not play time to dance around all day like a fairy and sing your favorite showtunes. You can do that stuff after class. You don't need training to be on Broadway. Either you have it or you don't. Either you bent over and got down on your knees or you didn't. Either you got lucky or you didn't. A degree makes almost no difference. Get an education. Get smart. Take private lessons on the side.
#19

re: Accepted to CAP21????

I hate to have to say it, but bronx has an extremely valid point.

But I wouldn't say to NOT go to cap's summer program - it's a great program.

Bronx: Try to be a little kinder with ure words...
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#20

re: Accepted to CAP21????

Bronx and munk - what's your opinion on Julliard, then?
JOHN LITHGOW I just realized, your last name is Butz! Both "Norbert" AND "Butz" are in your name! You must have gotten picked on a lot as a child!
#21

re: Accepted to CAP21????

"You don't need training to be on Broadway."

excuse me?? There's nothing wrong with getting a B.A. or B.F.A. in Theatre if thats what you love. that "Dancing like a fairy" comment was pretty crappy, IMHO.
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#22

re: Accepted to CAP21????

You gotta pick carefully. I want to go to a conservetory with a good general education too, and one that will give me a decent kickstart into the buisness (I'm looking at NCSA). The problem with Bronx's point is that IF you have a fallback you WILL fall back. At least that's how I look at it. I'm just thankful I have parents that support me one hundred and ten percent.
#23

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I know I'm always right. Thank you.
#24

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I agree. There's absolutely nothing wrong about being in a BFA program. You can always get a masters or teaching certificate for it and teach! And besides, if you really love the life of theatre and I mean love it like you would suffer and be willing to give up your free time, then you should do it otherwise you'll always wonder "what if?"
And I wouldn't say that doing musical theatre is "play time" whatsoever. Because sometimes it's not fun, it's actually real work. I have to play a piano profiency, do vocal juries, do written analysis on plays and scene and monologue work, dance juries etc. I am getting an education! Plus, my programs makes us do all these auditions so that we can have professional jobs in summer stock and other places! I learn to enjoy it but I wouldn't say it's play time whatsoever. I'm not trying to be a bitch about this but I think you're making it seem like you are telling someone to give up on their dream. I'm not saying you are but you are giving that impression. What is this, the 50's? If you have the urgency and willingness to do it, then by golly go for it! You never know what happens! And I am getting an education not only in theatre and music classes but in core classes too. I know not all musical theatre schools do that but it's no big deal. It's unforunate but it's not the end of the world. There's always a chance for everyone. Sure it's risky but so is every job oppurtunity in the world isn't it? You just have to have faith in yourself.
I say go for the program if you can, I know a few awesome teachers from there!
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Updated On: 4/5/05 at 11:39 PM

#25

re: Accepted to CAP21????

I wasn't saying people shouldn't pursue theatre in college, but many, many, many, many people leave college with a degree in theatre and end up getting screwed over, doing nothing with their lives.

If you have what it takes, you'll get where you need to go regardless of college training, but many people do grow and blossom in their college years. I'm not saying it's a bad thing.


"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson

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