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#26

re: Accepted to CAP21????

no! i wasn't talking to you. it;s true some people get screwed over, because they give up on their passion. if you have the passion, the talent and you know you will never give up i say go for it as well. but there's nothing wrong about pursuing that in college either, that's my opinion.
"Have a child for warmth and a baker for bread and a prince for... whatever!"

Updated On: 4/5/05 at 11:51 PM

#27

re: Accepted to CAP21????

YEs, you need passion and drive to make it in any field. But you could be the most sincere, driven, passionate person in the world. If you don't have what it takes, you don't have what it takes.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#28

re: Accepted to CAP21????

it's true it's a sketchy field as well as every other field. it is sad that when someone doesn't have what it takes and doesn't make it, i know it's hurtful. at my college they do sophomore barriers where if the voice falculty doesn't think you have the potential to make it they will cut you from the program. They're not trying to be mean but simply do a favor.

"Have a child for warmth and a baker for bread and a prince for... whatever!"

Updated On: 4/5/05 at 11:58 PM

#29

re: Accepted to CAP21????

As far as the program this summer is concerned we won't hear back until the beginning of May. Crosses Fingers
#30

re: Accepted to CAP21????

CAP 21 is an excellent program. I studied there in the summer of 1997. As I recall, it was quite dance intensive, with the vocal training being the next most intensive. Look elsewhere to supplement your "straight" actor training.

The environment is supportive yet tough. You'll only get out of it what you put in, so you'll have to work hard--and often--or else you'll be wasting your time and your money. Same goes for any training program, really.

And for the record, I think anyone who dreams of performing on Broadway one day should absolutely study theater in college. Ideally, you'd double major in theater and anything else, but the point is that studying the craft in college can help you decide if it's what you really want to do. You'll be introduced to the rigors of working in full-scale productions and given a taste of just how much you'll have to sacrifice. That's what college is about--finding yourself.

And this is coming from someone with a BFA in drama who is now a Web designer. I use that drama degree every time I've had a presentation to make, an idea to pitch, or a consultation to do. Selling IS acting! And all of us will have to sell something at some point in our lives--our services, our skills, our ideas.

There's lots you can do with a theater degree...not the least of which is to BE CREATIVE!!

Geez, I'm long-winded.
#31

re: Accepted to CAP21????

bronx sounds like (s)he's bitter about something.

The CAP21 summer program is just that... a summer program. I don't see why bronx is making a big issue out of it.

Also, bronx's whole explanation as to why you shouldn't study theatre in college is completely asinine and uncalled for.
#32

re: Accepted to CAP21????

amen TruthLasso!
"Have a child for warmth and a baker for bread and a prince for... whatever!"
#33

re: Accepted to CAP21????

bronx makes an issue out of it anytime Tisch is mentioned. Apparently, he/she left/dropped out/got kicked out/whatever and has nothing nice to say at all about NYU.

The OP was asking about the summer program. CAP21 does its own summer program and Tisch also does a CAP21 program. Two different things, application procedures, credits, costs, etc. I know kids who have gone to both and felt the costs were worth it. Any of the well-respected summer college programs are going to run the same amount roughly.

Thega, Juilliard does not have a MT program. You can study music or drama there, but not MT.

And finally, many kids who are getting a BFA double major (myself included) so it's not like you're not receiving an academic education at the same time.
#34

re: Accepted to CAP21????

Bronx doesn't seem to be saying anything nice about anything....

Someone didn't take their medication
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#35

re: Accepted to CAP21????

He thinks it's funny. It's his idea of a joke. I know Bronx, and trust me - he does it because he thinks it's funny, although I tell him every time that it's NOT funny and no one enjoys him on here when he posts like that. But yes, as sad as it is, he thinks it's funny.
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#36

re: Accepted to CAP21????

grrr I hate it when people do that! It gets me all worked up!!
"Have a child for warmth and a baker for bread and a prince for... whatever!"
#37

re: Accepted to CAP21????

it doesn't so much get me angry as it just confuses me i suppsose.

but hey, if you think it's funny, i'll just remember not to read your posts anymore.
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#38

re: Accepted to CAP21????

I literally laughed out loud after the 'you don't need training to be on broadway' comment. I've done workshops with broadway actors/actresses and every single one suggested that you go to college(even the ones who had dropped out after a year or two). Also, dance classes, voice lessons, etc are all forms of training and I think you'd have to be a moron to go audition for a broadway show without any training. That's just my opinion though
#39

re: Accepted to CAP21????

Ah. Well. I've got great things to say about Tisch and NYU. If you wanna hear good things about Tisch and NYU, find me. I'll give you an earful.

Medication is no laughing matter, by the way. It saves lives. Think about it. re: Accepted to CAP21????

#40

re: Accepted to CAP21????

It isn't a sketchy field....

Any field requires talent. The difference - you can be a horrible lawyer and still work in a firm. Chances are you won't get onstage (other than to clean it) if you aren't exceptional.

Think of every commercial you have seen. Now, a lot of those people wanted to become actors - now what are they doing?
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#41

re: Accepted to CAP21????

I do not post on this site that often, but for some reason this post just made me feel the need to reply.

I am an agent and I work primarily with actors. Some have college educations, some do not. I think it is a personal decision. If you go to school for a theatre degree, great. I do not understand why so many people stress having a back up plan if the acting thing does not work out. I don't know too many people who go to college as an economics major who get a degree in art history in case the other doesnt work out.

I represent many actors on broadway. The successful ones take acting classes, voice lessons, dance classes, on camera classes etc. even after they are working. They treat acting as their business. It is a profession, and you have to be a professional.

And don't knock those actors on commercials. Those commercials that we all get so sick of seeing pay much better than any waiter job in NYC
#42

re: Accepted to CAP21????

Munk is correct though funny is the wrong word. This whole conversation about whether people should go to musical theatre school would not have happened if I hadnt started it.

I was a drama major in Tisch with the Atlantic Theatre Company and left because I thought it was a bunch of bull **** and was getting me nowhere I wanted to go as much as I love acting. I am now a cinema studies major in Tisch and am as happy as can be. I act in shows on the side just like the drama majors. I'll just get a btter education than them.
#43

re: Accepted to CAP21????

Whoa!! A Cinema Studies Major...!!!! Now there's a field that will be in high demand.

Why knock a program that you felt was b/s??? Different people have different needs you felt yours weren't being met. For other people it may be exactly what they're looking for. It's pointless to say it's crap...or I'll have a better education...who cares...if the person in the program is satisfied...that's all that matters.

There are countless people with all sorts of degrees...that aren't working in the field they studied in...and others with no degrees at all that are doing quite well.

When you bash a program that you once were in...it just sounds like sour grapes...not much else.
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