Posted: 10/11/04 at 10:26pm
I am very pro-Equity. Join as soon as you have the credits to back it up. Union jobs protect an actor salary and work-wise. The level of most Equity shows (especially tours) tends to be higher than the non-Equity tours.
I'm proud to be a 4 year member of Equity. Ok....crucify me if you must....
Posted: 10/11/04 at 10:34pm
"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
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Posted: 10/11/04 at 10:34pm
"The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
"I wash my face, then drink beer, then I weep. Say a prayer and induce insincere self-abuse, till I'm fast asleep"- In Trousers
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Posted: 10/11/04 at 10:39pm
So, the point is...don't join unless you're pretty sure you can get work as a union actor...too many people join and never work again. most non-equity actors who work make more than the majority of those belonging to equity.
with that said, equity does provide a living wage for it's actors, and in NYC, there is almost always something to do as an equity actor.
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most equity workers get paid more PER GIG, but they have less gigs than most non-eqs...so, the non-eqs tend to make more money per year than the average equity actor.
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Posted: 10/11/04 at 11:52pm
Non-equity actors just have to work hard to earn their card, and THEN they can do the "big time" shows.
That's my opinion anyway.
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Posted: 10/11/04 at 11:58pm
nothing against non-equity talent or non-equity tours. i do, however, have a problem with first national tours (oklahoma, the music man) going out non-equity.
sure...it's cheaper to produce a non-equity tour....and the quality suffers because of that. and i'm hardly a 'broadway bully'...for the record.
Posted: 10/12/04 at 1:13am
The world of live theatre does not care about giving people chances. I'm not going to give up my hard earned position on a national tour just so I can be nice and let some non-eq play it just because that would be the non-broadway bully way to do it.
I am totally oppsed to the phrase, "oh just let them do it once in a while, you don't need it as much."
I've heard that a thousand times, and I'm sick of it. My answer is simply NO.
Call me a bully if you want!
Posted: 10/12/04 at 2:57am
Posted: 10/12/04 at 4:38am
NO national tour should be called a "Broadway" tour because it gives clueless theatre goers the impression that it's the same company from New York.
I'm currently living in the middle of no-where, so I have to admit that I'm grateful for the non-equity tours because they come here. I just can't see bringing theatre to people who would otherwise never be able to see anything resembling a "big show" as a bad thing.
"But equity actors have EARNED the right to be in National tours.
Non-equity actors just have to work hard to earn their card, and THEN they can do the "big time" shows."
But so many actors on Broadway and in big national tours earned their cards by being cast in these shows. Some have far less experience then those in the non-union tours.
One of my best friends moved to NY last year and was almost immediately cast in the chorus of a show. She had two community theatre credits to her name.
I also know people who are out on non-equity tours right now who are actually equity-eligible, but they want to work steadily so they won’t join unless cast on Broadway.
I’d say that they have more then earned the right to be on a national tour.
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Posted: 10/12/04 at 9:18am
i agree that all tours should be equity in an ideal world, but the networks and troikas of the world have shown that an ideal world is a non-existent world. they have taken over the market of the equity bus and truck tours that used to be soooo prevalent.
equity tours used to play my hometown all the time....granted they were scaled down bus and truck tours, but it was still equity talent. now, they only get non-equity tours in. i've seen a few, and the product really does suffer. say what you will about non-equity talent, but you'll never convince me that an all non-equity show is superior to an equity one. i've seen both, and there's just no comparison.
stepping off my soap box now.
Posted: 10/12/04 at 9:47am
I don't think necessarily it is imperative that ONLY members of equity should be allowed to tour. That isn't an exclusive privilege for members of the union. Everyone is trying to earn money somehow.
I support equity. I think they employ some of the most incredible talents. I also think everyone should have the opportunity to perform. I mean, it's not only a privilege, it's a freedom ... does that sound a little cliché? I think we should look at the performance aspect of it. Of course, they MAY be taking a few jobs away, but that shouldn't affect how everyone else should work.
Just my opinion ...
Posted: 10/12/04 at 10:58am
than 10 % of their memmbership actually can make a living at it.
And always remember that if it's a non Equity tour, it's crap. Only Equity performers are capable of doing anything like a national tour. If you're Equity, then you are talented. If you are not Equity, then you are not even capable of walking the stage without hitting the furniture. And yes...go to summer stock cause that's the only place non Equitys should work. They should not even dream of touching a professional stage until they join cause they are crap.
Thank god I just saw the Mille tour with an all Equity cast. Sure most of the performances were lacking and boring but..they were Equity so it had to be great!!
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Posted: 10/12/04 at 11:03am
I've noticed that in programs lately. Was this in a memo from the union? It does help with declaring a show as an equity show.
Posted: 10/12/04 at 11:08am
You might want to re-think your approach to how you state things in the future - you're alienating a lot of folks with your insipid comments. I, for one, after this post, will be thankful for the "blocking" mechanism on this board, which, from this moment on, will make it possible for me to look at threads like this without having to read your belittling comments.
Posted: 10/12/04 at 1:30pm
As much as I appreciate your attempt at psychoanalysis, your message only proves to me what a moron you are.
Why not address the points I and others have raised. Those of us here have chosen to discuss the issue at hand. And what do you choose to do? You choose to launch a personal, unprovoked attack on me for no valid reason. If you don't like members discussing the issue at hand, perhaps you should not waste our time by reading this thread.
If anyone here is appearing bitter, perhaps a look in the mirror will answer your question.
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