American Idiot actor fired for making inappropriate joke

[binau]

Posted: 2/27/18 at 3:46pm

http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/aussie-american-idiot-star-sacked-for-inappropriate-comment/news-story/be644c4738166e3d66883b7ceb8df9ba

Updated On: 2/27/18 at 03:46 PM

[haterobics]

Posted: 2/27/18 at 3:49pm

Link no work.

[binau]

Posted: 2/27/18 at 3:51pm

Try now, sorry

[BuddyStarr]

Posted: 2/27/18 at 3:54pm

Sounds like he owns up to the comment but still uses the (paraphrasing) "my offbeat comments/actions is why I get hired" line.  Uh, Just because you did it in the past doesn't mean it was ok then.

[haterobics]

Posted: 2/27/18 at 3:54pm

qolbinau said: "Try now, sorry"

Yup, now it works.

[binau]

Posted: 2/27/18 at 4:07pm

I wish it was clear what he actually said because I’m afraid this could be an example of the very strange world we live in - and what I mean by that is if he said something a bit unprofessional but with no malice is the appropriate action to fire and publicly ridicule someone or are there other options? People may see these headlines and think he is Harvey Weinstein. His career might be ruined for making a stupid joke.

[blaxx]

Posted: 2/27/18 at 4:40pm

It must have been extreme for him to get fired without warning. I mean EXTREME, both in content and context. 

[binau]

Posted: 2/27/18 at 4:54pm

Can we really take that for granted? How extreme can a 'crude allusion to menstruation' be? 

 

[smidge]

Posted: 2/27/18 at 4:57pm

qolbinau said: "I wish it was clear what he actually said because I’m afraid this could be an example of the very strange world we live in - and what I mean by that is if he said something a bit unprofessional but with no malice is the appropriate action to fire and publicly ridicule someone or are there other options? People may see these headlines and think he is Harvey Weinstein. His career might be ruined for making a stupid joke. "

I agree, a zero tolerance policy these days means you can't say anything  close to inappropriate. Even as a joke. The intent might not be harmful or malicious but you can't discount another person's reaction to what you've said. While the policies create a safe working environment, they also will discourage any interaction among co-workers.

 

 

[Anakela]

Posted: 2/27/18 at 5:28pm

qolbinau said: "I wish it was clear what he actually said because I’m afraid this could be an example of the very strange world we live in - and what I mean by that is if he said something a bit unprofessional but with no malice is the appropriate action to fire and publicly ridicule someone or are there other options? People may see these headlines and think he is Harvey Weinstein. His career might be ruined for making a stupid joke."

(eta: you can't bold a quote on here, I'm commenting on the "publicly ridicule" bit) Who is publicly ridiculing him and/or how is he being publicly ridiculed? Sidney Morning Herald story says that he took to his own Facebook to announce his own behavior and firing, then theatre company issued a statement in response to his Facebook post. "Sacked for inappropriate comment" and "sacked for inappropriate behavior" are the two headlines I saw, on two different stories. Headlines seem about as factual as you can get. There's nothing in the headline that isn't in his own Facebook post about what he did. Where's the ridicule?

Updated On: 2/27/18 at 05:28 PM

[blaxx]

Posted: 2/27/18 at 5:32pm

qolbinau said: "Can we really take that for granted? How extreme can a 'crude allusion to menstruation' be?

"

I guess we'll never know. He describes his relationship with the actress as one where this behaviour went back and forth. If clear parameters for inappropriate behaviour are not set, it will lead to people avoiding any kind of interaction in the future. 

[binau]

Posted: 2/27/18 at 5:39pm

Anakela said: "qolbinau said: "I wish it was clear what he actually said because I’m afraid this could be an example of the very strange world we live in - and what I mean by that is if he said something a bit unprofessional but with no malice is the appropriate action to fire and publicly ridicule someone or are there other options? People may see these headlines and think he is Harvey Weinstein. His career might be ruined for making a stupid joke."

(eta: you can't bold a quote on here, I'm commenting on the "publicly ridicule" bit) Who is publicly ridiculing him and/or how is he being publicly ridiculed? Sidney Morning Herald story says that he took to his own Facebook to announce his own behavior and firing, then theatre company issued a statement in response to his Facebook post. "Sacked for inappropriate comment" and "sacked for inappropriate behavior" are the two headlines I saw, on two different stories. Headlines seem about as factual as you can get. There's nothing in the headline that isn't in his own Facebook post about what he did. Where's the ridicule?"

Perhaps I should say 'subject to public ridicule'. Though I concede if the only reason this is public is because he made it public my comment is not really relevant. The major negative outcome being perhaps a job loss and career harm (regardless of whether this was public or not, it would have been hard for him to explain why he got fired or left the show to future employers in a way that would not affect his employment prospects). 

Updated On: 2/27/18 at 05:39 PM