Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 11/27/16- Page 3

[rosscoe(au)]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 1:24am

Maybe its time for all theaters to stop the resale of tickets, Harry Potter has done it in the UK, maybe its the only way to stop scalpers.

[SweetLips]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 1:47am

Recently saw Kinky Boots in Australia--paid top price A$140.00. The theatre was full and everyone was happy[producers/theatre owner].

No scalpers, no rush and booked best available for BOM next April-similar price-didn't have to ask re sight lines etc etc just looked at the plan and bought=easy. There are lots of joys living down under.

[aaaaaa15]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 8:02am

Let's also remember that this is the first week when the lottery tickets available have doubled. $10 is the cheapest seat on Broadway and it has more lottery seats available than any other show. Yeah they're hard to get but again that's down to the demands of the market. 

And I think they have every right to say they're a show that wants to educate younger people considering the school scheme that they do where, again, students pay $10. And I've seen photos of those students and for the most part, they are not white. Updated On: 11/29/16 at 08:02 AM

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 8:56am

HogansHero said: "re Hamilton prices...

are memory spans here so short that most of you do not recall that the increase is a reaction to scalper prices? Is it possible that you folks think it is better for the money to end up in the scalpers' pockets instead of people who make theatre (not to mention who make cheap tix available to high school kids in remarkable numbers)? Does the part this pricing strategy plays in chilling scalping evade your noggins?"

 

You know that they are.

Updated On: 11/29/16 at 08:56 AM

[mailhandler777]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 10:28am

Jakeevan942 said: "The Hamilton numbers are made even more impressive when you see that they only did 8 shows last week-Most weeks where Wicked/Lion King have approached that number have been 9 show weeks. I'd imagine we'll see even higher numbers around Christmas/New Year

 

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But Hamiltons regular ticket price is the price of a premium ticket at other shows. Their premium price is 3 times as much. Of course they will make more in 1 less show with those higher tickets. 

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 10:31am

mailhandler777 said: "But Hamiltons regular ticket price is the price of a premium ticket at other shows. Their premium price is 3 times as much. Of course they will make more in 1 less show with those higher tickets."

That's...why it's impressive. The fact that their regular ticket price is industrially premium but actually sellable. It's a huge deal.

[mailhandler777]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 10:31am

aaaaaa15 said: "Let's also remember that this is the first week when the lottery tickets available have doubled. $10 is the cheapest seat on Broadway and it has more lottery seats available than any other show. Yeah they're hard to get but again that's down to the demands of the market."

 

 

They may have more tickets available but you still have people that win the lottery that aren't even near the theatre. Those resold to the line are $239. 

[mailhandler777]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 10:32am

Double post.

Updated On: 11/29/16 at 10:32 AM

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 10:39am

mailhandler, where are you getting $239? The regular full price for Hamilton tickets is $199. Is that some sort of mid-premium option?

Updated On: 11/29/16 at 10:39 AM

[mailhandler777]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 10:47am

^In the Hamilton cancellation thread. People were paying $238 for regular priced tickets last week. 

 

Not sure if that is a holiday thing.

[aaaaaa15]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 12:01pm

mailhandler777 said: "They may have more tickets available but you still have people that win the lottery that aren't even near the theatre. Those resold to the line are $239."

Sure but the show would give 40 $10 tickets if the 40 or so winners were genuine. 

[mailhandler777]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 12:14pm

aaaaaa15 said: "mailhandler777 said: "They may have more tickets available but you still have people that win the lottery that aren't even near the theatre. Those resold to the line are $239."

Sure but the show would give 40 $10 tickets if the 40 or so winners were genuine. 

 

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The only way they were genuine winners was the live lottery. Lucky if half of them actually can make the show through the online lottery. 

[aaaaaa15]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 1:41pm

The live lottery was getting ridiculous and they were right to end it when they did.

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 3:18pm

The producers of Hamilton can't be blamed for idiots who enter the online lottery when they can't attend. Do you have any more arguments for us to rebut?

[Phantom of London]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 4:16pm

As I said earlier in the thread and didn't get an answer, but has Hamilton recouped? I be surprised if it hasn't, but having read a press release to say it has.

[mailhandler777]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 4:30pm

neonlightsxo said: "The producers of Hamilton can't be blamed for idiots who enter the online lottery when they can't attend. Do you have any more arguments for us to rebut?

 

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Not arguing at all. Just stating that those $10 lottery tickets are sometimes sold for $200+. 

[Daddy Warbucks]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 4:32pm

Phantom of London said: "As I said earlier in the thread and didn't get an answer, but has Hamilton recouped? I be surprised if it hasn't, but having read a press release to say it has.

 

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/theater/hamilton-inc-the-path-to-a-billion-dollar-show.html?_r=0

"Months ago, “Hamilton” recouped the $12.5 million it cost to mount. It is now making an estimated $600,000 a week in profit, and every indication is that its touring productions, which begin in Chicago in September and in San Francisco next March, will be highly profitable, too."

 

 

[Hairspray0901]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 4:35pm

I wonder if there's a technological way for the producers or Broadway Direct to use "location services" when it comes to entering the Hamilton lottery. Like if you're not within 75 miles of the theatre (give or take...basically any sort of radius where you would be able to get to the theatre in the 3 hour timeslot they give you), you simply can not enter.

[_IrisTInkerbell]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 5:52pm

JBroadway said: "As I so eloquently declared in my earlier post: "I know, I know, supply and demand, blah blah blah" 

At a certain point it begins to border on immoral. Just because they CAN, doesn't mean they should. They could probably charge £500 or more for Harry Potter tickets in London if they wanted to, but they don't.

Also, yes, people are willing to pay that much, but these people are all probably filthy rich (or financially irresponsible). It's just another step in the direction of the gross exclusionary elitism to which Broadway is already prone. Like I said, it's just a sad situation that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. "

My point exactly. 

And the price increase being a reaction to resale prices is just a lame justification imo. Again, Harry Potter manages with simple measures like the only way to get your ticket is to pick it up at the box office in person hours before the show. That doesn't complete rule out reselling of course but makes it much harder.

It's possible if you want to and if you want to keep the show affordable. Clearly, that is not a priority of Hamilton producers. Everyone can decide for themselves how they feel about that. Personally, I think it's greedy and the very core of capitalism. Which is not what theater should be about. In my opinion.

[GreenGables]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 6:05pm

_IrisTInkerbell said: "
It's possible if you want to and if you want to keep the show affordable. Clearly, that is not a priority of Hamilton producers. Everyone can decide for themselves how they feel about that. Personally, I think it's greedy and the very core of capitalism. Which is not what theater should be about. In my opinion."

Well, in that case, you need to lobby your senators and representatives to underwrite the costs of shows more a la England, where a priority is placed on making shows affordable and for the public, not left for the private sector to take the risk and support :)

 

[aaaaaa15]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 6:14pm

Exactly, Harry Potter prices will be extortionate when it goes to Broadway too. West End shows are always much cheaper. Similarly, West End Hamilton prices are much cheaper than on Broadway.

Updated On: 11/29/16 at 06:14 PM

[South Florida]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 6:21pm

Hogan nails it again, stop whining, would you rather have sleazy ticket scalpers get the money or LMM?

[MinnieFay]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 6:28pm

South Florida said: "Hogan nails it again, stop whining, would you rather have sleazy ticket scalpers get the money or LMM?"

If those are the only 2 choices --- then I'll pick the scalpers!

[South Florida]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 6:50pm

^because...?

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 11/29/16 at 7:37pm

MinnieFay said: "If those are the only 2 choices --- then I'll pick the scalpers!"