Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Zebra
Understudy Joined: 9/29/04
#0Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:02pm
Why would anyone who is a broadway supporter want to bash any show? We should all recognize and value different theatre form. It may not be your cup of tea but why bash it?
I have never in my life watched a "like minded community" so outright attack and bash one another. It is sick.
As we all know being invloved in a show is a very emotional experience. People put their heart and soul and we should be respectful. I always loved theatre because of the friendship and the family............Am I off base?
jmaclover
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/13/04
#1re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:03pmPlease, I have had enough...
"I've often said I should put sweets in my chair - they'd spend less time on my a** that way....." ~F.W.B.
Zebra
Understudy Joined: 9/29/04
andyf
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/12/04
#3People who bash the Brooklyn bashers...
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:04pm
Seriously...
Nice paradox, though.
Andrew, tonight isn't about you! It isn't even about me!!! - [FD]
Updated On: 12/7/04 at 09:04 PM
morosco
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/10/04
#4re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:06pmBROOKLYN is a horrible piece of theatre. The only thing it accomplishes is the further lowering of the bar. Perhaps bashing it will make room for something of better quality?
Matt_G
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/1/04
#5re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:06pmGive me a break. You seriously couldn't have just asked this in another thread?
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
#6re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:08pm
Discussion and criticism leads to enlightenment and improvement.
To say it is rude to criticise a show is absurd.
"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
Type_A_Tiff
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/25/04
#7re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:09pmSo are we supposed to only focus on the merits of every show? What would be the point of having a forum if we can't have an open, honest discussion on what we loved and hated?
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"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater
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Zebra
Understudy Joined: 9/29/04
#8re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:12pmI understand that good debate is healthy but why use words like "crap"? I have not even seen Brooklyn and probably won't but I am just curious why people feel the need to be so mean to one another. I mean look at the attack I got just for bringing it up?
andyf
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/12/04
#9re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:12pmCOMMUNIST!!!
Andrew, tonight isn't about you! It isn't even about me!!! - [FD]
jmaclover
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/13/04
#10re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:13pm
I didn't call you crap, I called the show crap.
I also said soemthing about doodoo....but you didn't bother to mention that, did you?
"I've often said I should put sweets in my chair - they'd spend less time on my a** that way....." ~F.W.B.
Zebra
Understudy Joined: 9/29/04
#11re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:16pmI am not offended I am just amazed at human behavior. Now someone will bash me for saying this...watch.
Matt_G
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/1/04
#12re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:20pmI'm amazed that you even started this. Don't tell me there aren't movies you've called "crap" before. Why should theatre be any different? Because it's live?
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
jmaclover
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/13/04
#13re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:20pm
HEHE
I think you already were.
No, theatre is something to be respected! BKLYN has ruined this. Simple as that.
"I've often said I should put sweets in my chair - they'd spend less time on my a** that way....." ~F.W.B.
Zebra
Understudy Joined: 9/29/04
#14re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:23pmMatt G you actually raised a good point. I am not sure why I feel it is different. I think it is beacuse having done shows myself I can relate to the tears and sweat that goes into it, but the same can be said for movies. hmmmmm
jmaclover
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/13/04
#15re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:25pmSo have I. Frankly, people need to find better taste.
"I've often said I should put sweets in my chair - they'd spend less time on my a** that way....." ~F.W.B.
Zebra
Understudy Joined: 9/29/04
#16re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:26pmMaybe I feel like Broadway gets sh*t on all by itself it does not need us doing it as well.....
andyf
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/12/04
#17re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:26pm
Honestly, can you guys just stop fighting and go back to my first post.
Let's quit this whole Brooklyn debate and just bask in my brilliance.
Andrew, tonight isn't about you! It isn't even about me!!! - [FD]
Matt_G
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/1/04
#18re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:27pm
I've done theatre and I've done film. If the end result is "crap" there's nothing that can be done about it. Of course there will always be people who enjoy certain things others don't for any number of reasons. I for one, can watch GLITTER on a loop from now until I die and never stop being entertained by it's campiness. I thought GIGLI was actually quite a good film. It had it's flaws, but not so much more than a lot of other films.
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
Zebra
Understudy Joined: 9/29/04
#19re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:30pm
I see your point. Maybe I am way too sensitive. I always put myself in other peoples shoes.....
I know that I would feel horrible if I worked on Brooklyn and read this board.
Matt_G
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/1/04
#20re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:32pmZebra, sitting in that audience, I felt nothing for pity for those performers. Do a search for my review of the show. The only negative thing I said about any member of the cast was about Eden's screeching. Because honestly, it was painful and it was unnecessary. The cast is exceptionally talented but the material is TRASH.
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
andyf
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/12/04
#21re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:33pmHOW DO I UPLOAD A PICTURE??!?
Andrew, tonight isn't about you! It isn't even about me!!! - [FD]
Updated On: 12/7/04 at 09:33 PM
Zebra
Understudy Joined: 9/29/04
#22re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:34pmHow about those who wrote the material? I can only imagine how it must feel.....not to be a baby but I just feel for people..thats all.
Matt_G
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/1/04
#23re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:37pm
I feel about as bad for them as I do for the people who wrote the script to THE GOOD SON w/ Macaulay Culkin (The WORST film I've ever seen), which is not bad at all. They should have known better.
Look, there have been so many crap productions on the stage in the last 100 years it would boggle your mind. Some shows are brilliant (West Side Story, Gypsy, Follies, Caroline Or Change) and some are just painful (BKLYN, Dracula, Thou Shalt Not)
It really is a crap shoot.
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
andyf
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/12/04
#24re: Brooklyn naysayers why? What does it accomplish?
Posted: 12/7/04 at 9:40pm
OK, I apologize to everyone involved...but once again I must say, KILL YOUR MARKETING DEPARTMENT!
Andrew, tonight isn't about you! It isn't even about me!!! - [FD]
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