#51
Posted: 5/27/06 at 12:35pm
The backing for BARE was recorded, no vocals. And, I'm not sure it was all recorded, but I know at least some was.
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#52
Posted: 5/28/06 at 1:50pm
I've often wondered that to Scottie310. Maybe they feel that it's too much money to manufacture, promote the CD, etc.
Now, we iTunes and other download sites, they really don't need to package a CD, so hopefully some things will see the light of day.
Now, we iTunes and other download sites, they really don't need to package a CD, so hopefully some things will see the light of day.
#53
Posted: 5/28/06 at 3:01pm
The way it was explained to me by one label exec, in addition to recording costs, maufacturing costs, sales and distribution costs, each quarter the labels must pay royalties on every CD in their active catalogue - even if that CD has not sold one single copy in that quarter. This explains why some slow selling titles are deleted so quickly.
In some cases the recording is made but it is cheaper NOT to release it than to go to the expense of mixing, mastering, pressing and releaseing a CD that might sell only a few thousand copies.
In some cases there were objections: Noel Coward apparently did not like the cast on Columbia's BITTER SWEET recording and asked the label not to release it. They could have released it anyhow but since he was one of their recording artists they bowed to his wishes.
In some cases the recording is made but it is cheaper NOT to release it than to go to the expense of mixing, mastering, pressing and releaseing a CD that might sell only a few thousand copies.
In some cases there were objections: Noel Coward apparently did not like the cast on Columbia's BITTER SWEET recording and asked the label not to release it. They could have released it anyhow but since he was one of their recording artists they bowed to his wishes.
Cast albums are NOT "soundtracks."
Live theatre does not use a "soundtrack." If it did, it wouldn't be live theatre!
I host a weekly one-hour radio program featuring cast album selections as well as songs by cabaret, jazz and theatre artists. The program, FRONT ROW CENTRE is heard Sundays 9 to 10 am and also Saturdays from 8 to 9 am (eastern times) on www.proudfm.com
#54
Posted: 5/28/06 at 3:12pm
frontrow, thanks for this awesome information! You're awesome at this stuff!
I personally think Lestat will be released because of Elton John and Anne Rice. Fans of both will definately get it.
I personally think Lestat will be released because of Elton John and Anne Rice. Fans of both will definately get it.
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Updated On: 5/28/06 at 03:12 PM
#55
Posted: 5/28/06 at 3:23pm
LESTAT has been recorded. The question now is whether it will get released or not now that the show has closed, with no prospect of a tour or regional productions to fuel future sales.
Cast albums are NOT "soundtracks."
Live theatre does not use a "soundtrack." If it did, it wouldn't be live theatre!
I host a weekly one-hour radio program featuring cast album selections as well as songs by cabaret, jazz and theatre artists. The program, FRONT ROW CENTRE is heard Sundays 9 to 10 am and also Saturdays from 8 to 9 am (eastern times) on www.proudfm.com
#56
Posted: 5/28/06 at 4:17pm
I meant to say released, my bad.
"You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view - until you climb into his skin and walk around in it."
To Kill A Mockingbird
To Kill A Mockingbird
#57
Posted: 7/12/07 at 3:46am
I see the interest in LESTAT has dwindled to nil.
Sadly a number of flop shows have been recorded and released to diminishing returns. This will discourage labels from recording other failed shows, some of which may contain outstanding scores.
In the 1950s and 60s Columbia Records used profits generated by MY FAIR LADY to finance a number of classical and Broadway cast albums that might have otherwise been missed.
It would be great if Decca would make more cast albums using some of the profits from WICKED and SPAMALOT and SPRING AWAKENING (not to mention their historic OKLAHOMA! cast album that sold a million copies as a set of 78 RPMS, millions more on Lp, and over 80,000 units on CD!)
Sadly a number of flop shows have been recorded and released to diminishing returns. This will discourage labels from recording other failed shows, some of which may contain outstanding scores.
In the 1950s and 60s Columbia Records used profits generated by MY FAIR LADY to finance a number of classical and Broadway cast albums that might have otherwise been missed.
It would be great if Decca would make more cast albums using some of the profits from WICKED and SPAMALOT and SPRING AWAKENING (not to mention their historic OKLAHOMA! cast album that sold a million copies as a set of 78 RPMS, millions more on Lp, and over 80,000 units on CD!)
Cast albums are NOT "soundtracks."
Live theatre does not use a "soundtrack." If it did, it wouldn't be live theatre!
I host a weekly one-hour radio program featuring cast album selections as well as songs by cabaret, jazz and theatre artists. The program, FRONT ROW CENTRE is heard Sundays 9 to 10 am and also Saturdays from 8 to 9 am (eastern times) on www.proudfm.com
#58
Posted: 7/12/07 at 3:52am
Was "The Adventures of Tom Sawyer" ever recorded?
#59
Posted: 7/12/07 at 4:03am
"Shelter
Smile
Tom Sawyer
Ring of Fire (it was recording, but not officially announced...hopefully it will be released)"
Smile never recorded a cast album. The recording people often say is the "unreleased cast album" is a demo of a version of the show that didn't even play Broadway.
Smile
Tom Sawyer
Ring of Fire (it was recording, but not officially announced...hopefully it will be released)"
Smile never recorded a cast album. The recording people often say is the "unreleased cast album" is a demo of a version of the show that didn't even play Broadway.
#60
Posted: 7/12/07 at 4:13am
Apparently a "cast album" of TOM SAWYER was done for MTI to send out with other show materials, but it is not available for general purchase.
Cast albums are NOT "soundtracks."
Live theatre does not use a "soundtrack." If it did, it wouldn't be live theatre!
I host a weekly one-hour radio program featuring cast album selections as well as songs by cabaret, jazz and theatre artists. The program, FRONT ROW CENTRE is heard Sundays 9 to 10 am and also Saturdays from 8 to 9 am (eastern times) on www.proudfm.com
Updated On: 7/12/07 at 04:13 AM
#61
Posted: 7/12/07 at 4:15am
That sucks because our theatre is doing it next season and I want Tom Sawyer, but I haven't heard the music...
#62
Posted: 7/12/07 at 4:45am
If your group gets the materials from MTI maybe they will let the cast hear it?
I do not know what happens with those privately made cast albums. Normally the cast is paid a week's salary for each day in the recording studio, but I wonder if they get paid if the disc is not released. Does anybody know?
I do not know what happens with those privately made cast albums. Normally the cast is paid a week's salary for each day in the recording studio, but I wonder if they get paid if the disc is not released. Does anybody know?
Cast albums are NOT "soundtracks."
Live theatre does not use a "soundtrack." If it did, it wouldn't be live theatre!
I host a weekly one-hour radio program featuring cast album selections as well as songs by cabaret, jazz and theatre artists. The program, FRONT ROW CENTRE is heard Sundays 9 to 10 am and also Saturdays from 8 to 9 am (eastern times) on www.proudfm.com
#63
Posted: 7/12/07 at 5:18am
The West End production of Napoleon was apparently recorded in it's entirety before it closed, but has never been mixed or released.
Did the National Theatre's production of 'Ghetto' receive an official release? There is a professional recording in existence, but I'm not sure it was ever available in shops...
Did the National Theatre's production of 'Ghetto' receive an official release? There is a professional recording in existence, but I'm not sure it was ever available in shops...
#64
Posted: 7/12/07 at 6:57pm
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#65
Posted: 8/20/11 at 1:39pm
"In some cases the recording is made but it is cheaper NOT to release it than to go to the expense of mixing, mastering, pressing and releaseing a CD that might sell only a few thousand copies."
Allegedly, this was the fate of the Lovely Ladies, Kind Gentleman recording, sadly. I hope someday to see it available.
Napoleon came out eventually, I believe.
Great thread! Just came across it in researching something else entirely. Google perpetually leads me back to BWW.
Allegedly, this was the fate of the Lovely Ladies, Kind Gentleman recording, sadly. I hope someday to see it available.
Napoleon came out eventually, I believe.
Great thread! Just came across it in researching something else entirely. Google perpetually leads me back to BWW.
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#66
Posted: 8/21/11 at 7:35am
I'm still hoping that the complete recording of "One Touch of Venus" does get released someday. It's a shame that the only available recording of this score is the truncated Mary Martin version. Have any of the Sadler's Wells productions in London ever had a cast recording? I wish they had recorded the cast of the Sadler's Wells production back in 2005.
#67
Posted: 8/21/11 at 10:17am
This was and is a great THREAD.
Recorded and released on LP is the 1950's musical DONNEYBROOK with the amazing Susan Johnson. Is there a possibility that it will ever be released on CD?
The information about the brilliant John McGlinn was fascinating. I treasure the complete SHOWBOAT that he recorded. I believe that he is no longer living. Am I right?
Recorded and released on LP is the 1950's musical DONNEYBROOK with the amazing Susan Johnson. Is there a possibility that it will ever be released on CD?
The information about the brilliant John McGlinn was fascinating. I treasure the complete SHOWBOAT that he recorded. I believe that he is no longer living. Am I right?
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#68
Posted: 8/21/11 at 10:25am
Yes, Maestro McGlinn passed away two years ago.
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe."
-John Guare, Landscape of the Body
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