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Changes made to Dreamgirls

Changes made to Dreamgirls

silent
#0Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 1:49pm

"The showstopper
'Dreamgirls,' due 2006

Tony wins: Six.

Back story: The 1981 backstage saga about the rise of a Supremes-like girl group in the '60s and '70s pits ambitious diva Deena against rejected Effie (a career-making part for Jennifer Holliday). Memorable songs: And I Am Telling You I'm Not Going, One Night Only.

Director/writer: Bill Condon (Kinsey, the Oscar-nominated screenplay for Chicago) directs his first musical. As proven by the success of last year's Ray, Condon believes the all-black musical will easily resonate with all audiences. "African-American music is the center of our culture," he says. "It isn't just part of our culture. It is the culture." There's also an American Idol element: "The first 15 minutes is a talent show with three judges."

Movie moves: Expect to hear six new songs in the film, which should start filming in January in Los Angeles, and Condon has significantly rewritten the book, because the stage show was mainly sung throughout. "Usually backstage musicals have bad second acts, when all the dreams disappear," he says. But Dreamgirls ends with one character's rise and another's fall.

Casting: Jamie Foxx, whose dead-on portrait of Ray Charles in Ray won him a best-actor Oscar, will play the Svengali-like manager Curtis Taylor Jr. Beyoncé Knowles will tackle Deena. Eddie Murphy is James Thunder Early, the famous artist who gives the girls their first break.

Chances: Condon has shown he can cleverly transfer a musical's story to the screen, and the star casting so far boasts both vocal talent and youth appeal. "

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broadwaystar2b
#1re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 1:50pm

I'm going to bite my tongue until after I see the final film

dreamboy2004
#2re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 1:53pm

Hearing that their planning on adding six songs makes me think they'll be removing six.

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Thenardier
#3re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 1:55pm

Eddie Murphy!?

re: Changes made to Dreamgirls

Where have I been?


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alphieboy
#4re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 1:56pm

So wait, I have been so confused about this...Have all three "Dreamgirls" been cast yet?


"If I have something to say, the whole world (BroadwayWorld) should hear it." - Thenardier

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Broadway_Bound_Star
#5re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 1:56pm

Wow..six songs?? Thats a lot! I wonder why they are changing it. That sucks.

silent
#6re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 1:59pm

Effie has not been cast yet. Beyonce is playing Deena and Fantasia is playing Lorell.

dreamboy2004
#7re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 2:07pm

Where did you get all of this informantion? Where has been confirmed that Fantasia has been casted?

silent
#8re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 2:11pm

Just trust me. You'll be seeing two overrated ladies in this film. At this point, I'm interested in seeing who they cast as Effie.
Updated On: 7/23/05 at 02:11 PM

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alphieboy
#9re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 2:15pm

Who is in talks for Effie? I am so confused...? I thought I believe her name is Capitha Jenkins (sp?) was playing Effie?


"If I have something to say, the whole world (BroadwayWorld) should hear it." - Thenardier

MargoChanning
#10re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 2:18pm

They're still auditioning people for Effie. And Jenkins is too old for the role.


"What a story........ everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." -- Birdie [http://margochanning.broadwayworld.com/] "The Devil Be Hittin' Me" -- Whitney

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magruder
#11re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 3:52pm

We don't know what songs are being replaced... for all we know, they could be talking about some of the incidental musical numbers like "Goin' Downtown," "Driving Down the Strip," "One More Picture Please," or "Party, Party"...


"Gif me the cobra jool!"

ZONEACE
#12re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 4:12pm

If anyone is asking why they are doing this, it should be obvious, they want to give Beyonce more numbers.


Excuse me while i wretch.


when ducks grow thumbs then maybe my opinion will change.

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magruder
#13re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 4:15pm

Excuse me, but considering that Deena is supposed to be the pretty, not especially talented one, how is Beyonce NOT appropriate for the role?


"Gif me the cobra jool!"

nodaybut2day2007
#14re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 4:16pm

Is Beyonce's character even the main character. I sense a 'Bewitched' sort of thing going on here.

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magruder
#15re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 4:19pm

As originally written, there's a lot of focus on Effie in Act One, and probably more material for Deena in Act Two. Effie has always seemed like the heart and soul of Dreamgirls, because "And I Am Telling You" so thoroughly dominates the evening, but truth be told, the roles are probably of equal stature.


"Gif me the cobra jool!"
Updated On: 7/23/05 at 04:19 PM

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theatreguy
#16re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 4:29pm

nd if we're going by what the Tonys originally thought, Sheryl Lee Ralph was nominated for Best Leading Actress along with Jennifer Holliday.

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alphieboy
#17re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 4:35pm

Exactlly. So they are pretty much equal.


"If I have something to say, the whole world (BroadwayWorld) should hear it." - Thenardier

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CapnHook
#18re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 4:38pm

It's not confirmed Fantasia is in the film.


"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle

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zoran912
#19re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 5:05pm

Thank goodness! I think Beyonce is a great choice.

dreamboy2004
#20re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 6:26pm

I read the article for myself but still haven't seen any mention of Fantasia being casted.

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alphieboy
#21re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 7:22pm

re: Changes made to Dreamgirls

I also thought that Beyonce is a very good choice! But many pepole seem to disagree...?


"If I have something to say, the whole world (BroadwayWorld) should hear it." - Thenardier

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CapnHook
#22re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/23/05 at 7:26pm

I saw GOLDMEMBER for the second time last night on TV. Hadn't seen it in years. Was pleasantly surprised by Beyonce's performance. It was very good.


"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle

dreamboy2004
#23re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/24/05 at 12:07am

I was just thinking who the perfect person to play Effie would be Monique from The Parkers. She trully had the confindence bordline cockiness that Effie posses but stil has a vulnerbility. Only if she was maybe about fifteen years younger and could sing,because I really think she could act the part. I saww Goldmember too and was impressed with Beyonce's acting also.

Quasi
#24re: Changes made to Dreamgirls
Posted: 7/24/05 at 7:41am

I just hope that they do not cut to much songs and will change the whole piece too much. If they make it like Cabaret where all numbers where performed onstage, there will be a lot which would not work in my opinion. "Condon has significantly rewritten the book, because the stage show was mainly sung throughout." It seems that there will be only a part of the whole score in the movie, if Condon has rewritten the book because it was originally sung throughout. Nevertheless I hope it will be great.


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