Controversial high school prod. of "Big River" in Glenelg, Maryland
Posted: 5/22/05 at 3:57am
my thoughts are this: i can understand why the copyright holder refused. they do NOT have to give permission to everyone who wants to perform. This right of refusal is often used to not over-expose the material. I think that showing a clip of a black huck and white jim might also be misleading and cause a misrepresentation of the show - which could be just as damaging as overexposure.
Updated On: 5/22/05 at 03:57 AM
Posted: 5/22/05 at 4:50am
The one student's father's comment really got to me. Is the real controversy that a black student played a white boy, or that a white student played a black slave? If two white students had portrayed the characters of Huck Finn and Jim, they probably wouldn't have been prevented from airing the segment. Same thing if it were two black students. Usually these are unintentional conditions based on the actors available in the school, but to intentionally cast the opposite race in actor/character portrayals is what made this controversial.
Colorblind casting is an issue that everyone dances around but rarely answers directly, because they don't want to sound racist by saying no. Even in shows that are comprised of black characters, to say that only black actors can play those roles is racist. So, like R&H Theatricals, they claim that this play is "special". You can have an all-white Miss Saigon, Annie Oakley can be black, but a white actor starring in Raisin in the Sun is inconceivable. Colorblind casting has to go both ways, or else the whole argument behind it is hypocritical.
I personally think this type of casting would bring an interesting perspective to the play, because it does make you think about your own assumptions about race in our society.
Wanting life but never knowing how
Updated On: 3/28/08 at 04:50 AM
Posted: 5/22/05 at 7:24am
DID THEY HAVE PERMISSION TO VIDEOTAPE IN THE FIRST PLACE?
A standard contract allows a 30-second clip to be taped for promotional purposes only. Anything longer needs express written permission of the license holder - regardles of contrroversial casting, etc.
Posted: 5/22/05 at 10:33am
Posted: 5/23/05 at 12:08am
There was no reference in the article the problem being with the permission to videotape the segment. The spokesperson from R&H Theatricals said that they refused to allow the segment to air specifically because of the casting.
Wanting life but never knowing how
Posted: 5/23/05 at 7:10am
if one thinks R&H is out of line, they should go directly to Hauptman and the Miller estate and see what they think. Unfortuneately, Mark Twain is dead, so there's no way of knowing how he would feel!
Posted: 5/23/05 at 7:41am
R and H did not only object to their show being video taped, they wrote a letter to Glenelg Country school, they objected to the color blind casting, and their letter refered to it as something along the lines of "cleary breaching the intended purpose" of the show, or some other craziness. The letter was not kind or subtle about it's intentions.
This was the issue at hand. Last night Jay and Chris performed an AMAZING parady of the song, calling R and H on their hipocracy and pointing out that we are in 2005. As a nation we'd like to think we are beyond stereo-types. Apparently some are not. The number was a huge shout-out to our generation, we pride ourselves on being open-minded. It was an amazing moment for all who witnessed, and the two got an enormous standing ovation. Not to be a drama queen, (sorry) but I was nearly moved to tears... I'm proud to say I was there, I think it was important to all. A man spoke last night (I don't have a program with his name and my memory is failing me) of the politics and what he is doing to stop this and how he will continue to fight RandH's estate until the decision is changed.
Anyhow, the two are continuing to fight this, and are performing "Muddy Waters" at the Kennedy Center in a few months, and will continue to ask R and H for permission to perform it with their casting choices.
I'll be back with more later.
Updated On: 5/23/05 at 07:41 AM
Posted: 5/23/05 at 10:41am
Kind of makes me wonder if when I sing (badly) my girlfriend's kid to bed with "Wheels of a Dream" if the copyright holder is going to knock on my door because I'm white. :) Either that or because I'm a lousy singer.
Posted: 5/23/05 at 11:31am
As for the controversy, it can for sure be argued both ways. I also think none of this would have come up if they had never filmed for C-SPAN. But I don't think that R&H had any right to step in (especially now that the production has been over for more than two months) to criticize the director for her casting choices. It would not have been the same the other way around, with Nick as Huck and Jay as Jim. I also think people should take into consideration that Glenelg Country School is a small private school with limited choices for casting.
The two actors won awards for Featured Actor and Lead Actor in a Musical, the results of voting from more than a month ago before all of this came up. They also won for Best Song ("Muddy Water"), the song they were forbidden to perform.
I saw the production, which received unanimous rave reviews from the Cappie critics, and at first the nontraditional casting seemed strange, but after only a few minutes it all seemed natural. We all knew that Huck was free and Jim was a slave. We did not have to look at their races to remember that.
It's not as if (in a potentially bad example) there were a group of all black Nubians with a white Aida. Now that would not make sense. In Big River, Jim is not shown with a large group of other slaves. But I don't know.
I think that this will take a very long time to be resolved. I would expect to see these kids on Oprah.
Posted: 5/23/05 at 5:46pm
I agree.
Posted: 5/23/05 at 6:05pm
I completely agree.
"I think it was the Korean tour or something. They were all frickin' asian!" -Zoran912
Posted: 5/23/05 at 6:12pm
As a nation "we like to think we are beyond stereotypes?" We DO? What nation do you live in? I think this sort of hip, post-racism pose is so incredibly disingenous. This isn't color-blind casting, this is color-conscious casting done in order to make what probably seemed like a really profound point. At least to the high school imagination.
Updated On: 5/23/05 at 06:12 PM
Posted: 5/23/05 at 6:15pm
Posted: 5/23/05 at 6:22pm
"I think it was the Korean tour or something. They were all frickin' asian!" -Zoran912
Posted: 5/23/05 at 6:29pm
And really, do NOT try to convince me that it just so happened to work out that the casting landed this way, that it was color blind (an impossibility if whoever cast the show had their EYES OPEN). Do not pretend that it wasn't conscious, that whoever did it didn't think this would add some sort of po-mo comment on the characters.
Please don't be that willfully naive. Sure, they can play the parts. But the copyright holders, who OWN the work, do have the right to say it can't be taped and broadcast. As WHITE SLAVE OWNERS once had the right to OWN BLACK PEOPLE and to tell them what they could or couldn't do. Welcome to The Ownership Society.
Posted: 5/23/05 at 6:31pm
It is repulsive, Jwei123, I agree.
Posted: 5/23/05 at 6:38pm
Says WHO? Who, anywhere, says that saying that black actors should play characters who are black is RACIST?
"I personally think this type of casting would bring an interesting perspective to the play, because it does make you think about your own assumptions about race in our society."
It does? In what way? Please explain what you mean by "interesting perspective?"
And which was it? "COLOR BLIND CASTING" or "CONSCIOUS CASTING TO BRING AN UNDEFINED INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE?" Cuz I can see why shutting down the latter would be the obvious choice.
Updated On: 5/23/05 at 06:38 PM
Posted: 5/23/05 at 7:19pm
And again, I don't think any of this would have surfaced if they hadn't filmed for television. Would it have still been wrong? Do you think licensing companies should ask who is playing which roles to every production to which they give the rights?
Posted: 11/11/05 at 10:57am
>It does? In what way? Please explain what you mean by "interesting perspective?"
I've been thinking about this and I sort of have my own take on it. If you were to show that white people just as easily could've been enslaved and made property if they had been the minority wouldnt that kind of go a long way to show how nonsensical racism is and that it just comes from ignorance?
It's something that I'm interested to hear more opinions on.
Updated On: 11/11/05 at 10:57 AM
Posted: 11/11/05 at 5:23pm
Any director that's casting someone else's show with the sole intent of making a statement with the race of his/her actors and the characters they play isn't someone I'd want to associate with.
Posted: 11/11/05 at 5:52pm
Well, I am white and my boyfriend is black, and I still don't agree with the casting choice. I am not scared of sounding like a racist, because I am not. I am all for colorblind casting when the roles aren't written for a specific race. but when you take world-known characters like Huck and Jim, whose relationship was groundbreaking back when the book was written. (it was actually banned by many groups for it's "liberal and radical" subject matter, about the relationship between a black slave and a white boy who meet under extraordinary circumstances, it undermines the entire historical context and importance of the show, along with the actors' portrayal of the characters. to me, it would be insulting to be in that audience seeing a sixteen year old white boy trying to portray a lifetime of slavery and stuggle to be seen just as a person, and not a piece of property.
Now I love the casting choice of Audra in Carousel, and I loved Stokes in Kiss me Kate and La Mancha. But in no way are those roles confined to the rules of Race. When it comes to a white coalhouse walker and a black Willy Conklin, count me out.
Updated On: 11/11/05 at 05:52 PM
Posted: 11/11/05 at 6:00pm
By the way, I HATE the term "color blind." We shouldn't be "blind" to any person's color. We should try to understand better, celebrate and appreciate our differences when it comes to race, culture and history. Color is a part of each of us. Acceptance is the key. Ignoring it isn't the answer.
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Posted: 11/11/05 at 6:10pm
Posted: 11/11/05 at 8:20pm
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