Drowsy Chaperone - Won the Lottery and thoughts — Page 3

What? People think Man in Chair is heterosexual?

He gets an erection from watching Robert Martin/Percy Hyman tap dancing. And almost explodes with glee when he gets to hug him at the end.

Regarding DC being glib entertainment being created/put on during war time. It has documented time and again that when war is happening, audiences will turn to comedies to get away from the depressing war time news. Screwball comedies exploded during the 1940s because people were sick, sick, sick of having to listen or watch depressing news all day.

I saw the show in London - maybe John Glover doesn't do the erection bit...?

Fen ~

There have been some shows that DID deal with the serious subject at hand.

They didn't do/haven't done all that well.

And just because people might like escapism for a while that does NOT make them socially irresponsible. What? We should all be sitting home watching CNN and wringing our hands?? Give me a break.

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Fen, what is with making the condescending remarks constantly to me? I find it funny though that you start out disagreeing with me regarding comedies in wartime than restate exactly what I said.

I am getting that feeling that you one of those Always-Has-to-Be-Right posters.

As for when historians look back. Well, going back to my World War 2 example, although plenty of people were using tv, radio, movies, and musical theatre to provide escapism, these same people are often viewed as part of the Greatest Generation for their sacrifices both within and outside the war. The same Hollywood actors who starred in screwball comedies are not only praised for their work in those movies but also for participating in the war (several actors actually fought in the war), for doing charity work that benefitted people who had families in the war, etc, etc. Hollywood wasn't only doing this--but people in the arts everywhere during World War 2. So, I don't think historians will think negatively on people using escapism during war time.

For god sakes, Fen, if you are going to patronize, at least get to know your entertainment history before passing judgments on those who create it and those who watch it.

And, for the record, my brother has gone to Iraq and will be going back in the fall. So, you think twice before calling people across the board socially irrresponsible for liking something that isn't depresssing. Never for a moment do I forget my brother could be in danger, could be injured or killed when he was/is (going back) over there. However, just because I happen to enjoy DC doesn't mean I forget that fact while I am watching it, you bastard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you have any other pearls of wisdom you would like to give to me, Fen? Hopefully, however condescending you appear to be, you won't shove your foot in your mouth once again as least regarding who is and isn't socially irresponsible and what is and isn't socially irresponsible to watch/listen to/create during wartime. However, knowing you, I expect you'll have to say something in the end because you must be right regardless of whether you are right or not.

Well, I am bound to take it personally when you word things the way that you do. Next time, please take into consideration how the context might come off sounding since you don't know who is and who isn't personally affected by this war on the forum.

However, I am willing to overlook it.

And, as far as being socially irresponsible goes, people don't usually become that way until after the war is over. Historical examples: 1920s, 1950s, 1980s. In all these cases, the culture was so affected by WWs 1 and 2, and Vietnam that rather than deal with the effects at hand, they all became frivolous, self-absorbed types. (Gotta hand it to DC for catching that bit of the 1920s so particularly.) Partying, getting drunk, giving new meaning to consumerism in all its forms was the reaction to the war.

How does this differ from the the poplite entertainment created during the war itself? Well, there was more of a an effort to give value even to the entertainment aspects of it. For example, the counterculture revolution--the same ones who protested the war, fought for Civil Rights and feminism--challenged Hollywood by giving it art house films (there had been art house films prior to the 1970s, but not American created and not mainstream) but also gave us the special effects blockbuster as well. Back then, special effects films were special because no one in Hollywood thought audiences would want to see popcorn flicks with throwaway plots and interchangable stars. So what they were doing was groundbreaking even though we don't think of special effects blockbusters as groundbreaking. The spec effects films were their way of dealing with the war and having some fantasy to turn to.

I totally disagree with you......"Drowsy" is a very original musical with a fun story line, good laughs and catchy tunes.
I thought it made for a very enjoyable night at the Marquis....
.... Hey, it's lasted this long!

Come on..you had great seats and cheap!

Wildroses, You obviously have issues, but this is not the forum for them. I said nothing about the soldiers, or this war in particular (and I could say a Helluva lot). I am a staunch (S-T-A-U-N-C-H) supporter of our troops, and I have performed frequently at Veterans events and programs, and I have a family member involved in the military as well as a close high school friend, John McKenna, who died in Iraq last year, but I don't let my personal fears about my family and friends safety cloud my judgement about politics.

The only thing I offered was an opposing argument to your points about society and entertainment during wartime, and the last time I checked, that wasn't against the Patriot Act.

However, if you can quote directly what exactly it was that generally offensive to our troops rather than just something that personally ruffled your feathers (for which I've already offered mitigation) then I will certainly apologize. I am perfectly within my rights to criticize the society we live in, and you are completely out of line to try to shame me into apologizing for my views.

I never suggested that people who go to these shows are socially irresponsible, in fact, the other way around, I think perhaps producers who get rich making drivel just to distract the masses are the ones who are socially irresponsible.



And I'm sorry, I don't buy your argument that " I have a Women Studies minor, and in many classes we talk about GLBT issues so I am not as naive as you believe I am regarding GLBT representations and media" and yet you said that The Man in Chair is possibly "A closeted gay"

In my experience, people who call homosexuals "a gay" usually aren't the most tuned in or sensitive to the LGBT experience, so forgive me if I find your credentials suspect.

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Updated On: 5/26/07 at 11:22 PM