#3
Posted: 6/9/08 at 12:38pm
Flop musicals are my thing. The ones that I think should be reworked are all on my profile. I.E.; Carrie, Dear World, Late Nite Comic, Mack and Mabel, Baker's Wife, Prettybelle....there's more, but those are my favs.
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#4
Posted: 6/9/08 at 12:42pm
Rags
Minnie's Boys
Minnie's Boys
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#5
Posted: 6/9/08 at 3:34pm
RAGTIME
and
LORD OF THE RINGS.
I thought they were both great, but also think they could be re-tooled a bit to be standouts on Broadway some day!
and
LORD OF THE RINGS.
I thought they were both great, but also think they could be re-tooled a bit to be standouts on Broadway some day!
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#6
Posted: 6/9/08 at 3:43pm
Dance of the Vampires. Bring it to Broadway in its unaltered form and it will be the hit it should have been.
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#7
Posted: 6/9/08 at 3:44pm
Look To The Lillies - good score, week book
Drat the Cat - great score and fun book
Drat the Cat - great score and fun book
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#8
Posted: 6/9/08 at 3:46pm
Yes, Dance of the Vampires. Campy fun, but I didn't really think it was originally a funny (at times) campy show. Also, Cry-Baby. Not to mention Tarzan and The Little Mermaid. I mean, those could have been brilliant. The Disneys were total disappointments, especially after The Lion King. Mary Poppins could use a bit of work but not too much because it's MUCH better than the others.
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#9
Posted: 6/9/08 at 3:47pm
RE: Mack and Mabel. It's a glorious score, no doubt and my favorite of all the Jerry Herman scores. But they've been tinkering with it forever and it just never seems to come together -- I saw a perfectly respectable production at the Paper Mill Playhouse some years back, but still came away feeling something just wasn't working. Same as Candide -- magnificent score but the show just never seems to work. As Gloria Swanson said about Queen Kelly, some movies just don't to want to be born.
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#10
Posted: 6/9/08 at 3:49pm
If any producer were brave enough to go near 'Carrie', I'm confident it would be a hit this time around. Despite the fact musicals really haven't always been sunshine and rainbows, audiences today are probably much more likely to accept such an offbeat source material, and the legendariness of its floppiness would have theatre queens queuing around the block. They'd really need to tighten up whatever was wrong with it last time, but those flaws are well-documented, so really shouldn't prove a problem to any producer with half a brain. And really now; is there one among us who can say they definitely would NOT see it? I strongly doubt it. ^_^
#11
Posted: 6/9/08 at 3:51pm
The Pirate Queen - with some some deletions and additions, character development and swash buckling - she could ride again.
#12
Posted: 6/9/08 at 3:54pm
Ah, the Pirate Queen. Memories.
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#13
Posted: 6/9/08 at 4:00pm
A good director and choreographer could get Carrie up and running. The main problem a director should solve is style. Should it be campy (like Little Shop of Horrors) or should it be realistically scary (like Sweeney Todd)? Once that's decided, the show will come together.
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#14
Posted: 6/9/08 at 4:24pm
THE ROBBER BRIDEGROOM, THE GOLDEN APPLE and THE HUMAN COMEDY.
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#15
damn right i think theres something in it for the pirate queen if they could revive it- the songs esp the duets are beautifully written and the tunes melodious sounding.
chess and candide - i still dont really understand why they failed.
Posted: 6/9/08 at 5:45pm
damn right i think theres something in it for the pirate queen if they could revive it- the songs esp the duets are beautifully written and the tunes melodious sounding.
chess and candide - i still dont really understand why they failed.
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#16
Posted: 6/9/08 at 6:04pm
Taboo should have worked.
Oh, and I almost forgot to mention...I'm the good cop, he's the bad cop.
#18
Posted: 6/9/08 at 7:07pm
Sitting in Joe Allen's, someone leaving leaned over my table to look at the Breakfast at Tiffany's poster and say, "That must have been a WONDERFUL show".
By the way, the John Doyle production of Mack and Mabel two years ago in London, really worked in my opinion. Not quite a concert version, yet not quite a full production either.
By the way, the John Doyle production of Mack and Mabel two years ago in London, really worked in my opinion. Not quite a concert version, yet not quite a full production either.
#19
Posted: 6/9/08 at 7:09pm
Carrie neeedss to be realistic. I want to restage flops as a career, and Carrie would be my first project.
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#20
Posted: 6/10/08 at 9:44am
So let's look at this hypothetical flop season so far...
Flora the Red Menace
Glory Daze
Chess
Carrie
Dear World
Late Nite Comic
Mack and Mabel
The Baker's Wife
Prettybelle
Rags
Minnie's Boys
Ragtime
Lord of the Rings
Dance of the Vampires
Look to the Lillies
Drat! The Cat!
Cry-Baby
Tarzan
The Little Mermaid
Candide
The Pirate Queen
Carrie
The Robber Bridegroom
The Golden Apple
The Human Comedy
Taboo
Merlin
Zorba
Bajour
Breakfast at Tiffany's
Hmmm...15 shows one season...15 the next...all a look back at some reincarnated flops...can we do this? I think we should. If anyone wants to pitch in money, I think we should try for at least some of these.
Flora the Red Menace
Glory Daze
Chess
Carrie
Dear World
Late Nite Comic
Mack and Mabel
The Baker's Wife
Prettybelle
Rags
Minnie's Boys
Ragtime
Lord of the Rings
Dance of the Vampires
Look to the Lillies
Drat! The Cat!
Cry-Baby
Tarzan
The Little Mermaid
Candide
The Pirate Queen
Carrie
The Robber Bridegroom
The Golden Apple
The Human Comedy
Taboo
Merlin
Zorba
Bajour
Breakfast at Tiffany's
Hmmm...15 shows one season...15 the next...all a look back at some reincarnated flops...can we do this? I think we should. If anyone wants to pitch in money, I think we should try for at least some of these.
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#21
Posted: 6/10/08 at 9:47am
Carrie
Dance of The Vampires
The Pirate Queen
Dance of The Vampires
The Pirate Queen
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#22
Posted: 6/10/08 at 9:55am
Disney's needs to talk to the creators of Fuerzabruta & De La Guarda and have them redesign Tarzan for the stage. I think it would be amazing then....
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#23
Posted: 6/10/08 at 11:42am
I have to say that "Golden Apple" is considered a flop ONLY because it didn't run. There is absolutely NOTHING flawed about it. As Ken Mandelbaum said about it in "Not Since Carrie", all the other shows in the book were in there because they failed the audience in one way or another and "Golden Apple" was in there because "the audience failed it."
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned "Lolita, My Love", yet.
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned "Lolita, My Love", yet.
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